If Satan exists, it is Allah

[Sculptor]

Islam is a cancer to the freedoms we have taken for granted.

There is no such thing "Islamaphobia" - a phobia is an irrational fear, whereas any intelligent society should fear the spread of this evil ideology.

Sorry but no.
Jesus is the same as Satan. God told me.

Love of Wisdom? Idiots like you should not be on a philosophy forum.

Don't blame me. God told me. Take it up with him.
Maybe it is you that has been duped by Satan?

[attofishpi]

Sorry but no.
Jesus is the same as Satan. God told me.

Love of Wisdom? Idiots like you should not be on a philosophy forum.

Don't blame me. God told me. Take it up with him.
Maybe it is you that has been duped by Satan?

This thread is about the threat of ISLAM, since lefty cunts like you allow immigration of ANYONE to alter the British way of life...you are to blame.

What part of ISLAM is at peace with British based CHRISTIAN virtues?

You have nothing to offer Britain - you have sold the British soul to Islamic immigrants.

THIS is a result of cunts like you:

[Sculptor]

Love of Wisdom? Idiots like you should not be on a philosophy forum.

Don't blame me. God told me. Take it up with him.
Maybe it is you that has been duped by Satan?

This thread is about the threat of ISLAM, since lefty cunts like you allow immigration of ANYONE to alter the British way of life...you are to blame.

What part of ISLAM is at peace with British based CHRISTIAN virtues?

Christian and Islamic virtues are both anathema to the British way of life, and to humanity is general.
Especailly the Hrebrew bible which was written by the Devil, and the source of all morality for both Christianity and Islam.
Islam and Chrstianity are fully at peace one with the other in 90% of all countries around the world.
Isreal is in control of the US and UK political processes and fund all 4 major parties on both sides of the Atlantic.
Christian fundementalists want to initiate Armageddon in Palestine so the US and UK are pouring money and arms into that conflict.
Saudi and the other oil rich countries are suppling the fuels for the slaughter.

[attofishpi]

Don't blame me. God told me. Take it up with him.
Maybe it is you that has been duped by Satan?

This thread is about the threat of ISLAM, since lefty cunts like you allow immigration of ANYONE to alter the British way of life...you are to blame.

What part of ISLAM is at peace with British based CHRISTIAN virtues?

Christian and Islamic virtues are both anathema to the British way of life, and to humanity is general.

Christianity formed the British way of life (idiot) and was no way an anathema.

How does ISLAM fit since lefty cunts like you are welcoming such a DISGUSTING ideology into our shores through mass migration?

[Sculptor]

This thread is about the threat of ISLAM, since lefty cunts like you allow immigration of ANYONE to alter the British way of life...you are to blame.

What part of ISLAM is at peace with British based CHRISTIAN virtues?

Christian and Islamic virtues are both anathema to the British way of life, and to humanity is general.

Christianity formed the British way of life (idiot) and was no way an anathema.

How does ISLAM fit since lefty cunts like you are welcoming such a DISGUSTING ideology into our shores through mass migration?

No.
The Abrahamic religions took control of the world. In Britain it took control of the British Empire to help Satan killi millions and control the world.
Same with the Islamic empires too.
It is only with the rise in secularism that the British gave back control and retreated from empire.
God told me this and the history confirms it. SO you do not have a leg to stand on.
You are the devil's whore

[attofishpi]

Christian and Islamic virtues are both anathema to the British way of life, and to humanity is general.

Christianity formed the British way of life (idiot) and was no way an anathema.

How does ISLAM fit since lefty cunts like you are welcoming such a DISGUSTING ideology into our shores through mass migration?

No.
The Abrahamic religions took control of the world. In Britain it took control of the British Empire to help Satan killi millions and control the world.

The British Empire created USA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA and many COMMONWEALTH countries that have citizens very happy with their freedom and democracy.

Why don't you ask them (before the lefty cunts allow their countries to be fucked up with mass migration of ISLAMISTS)

Same with the Islamic empires too.

ALL of them have NO democracy. They KILL people for not believing in Mohammads disgusting crap. Homosexuals are stoned to death.

But hey - Sculptors ergo Chaz Wymans of the English nation will continually sell out our nation to ISLAMIC immigration - because he is so dumb to compare ALL religions as equal.

[Sculptor]

Christianity formed the British way of life (idiot) and was no way an anathema.

How does ISLAM fit since lefty cunts like you are welcoming such a DISGUSTING ideology into our shores through mass migration?

No.
The Abrahamic religions took control of the world. In Britain it took control of the British Empire to help Satan killi millions and control the world.

The British Empire created USA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA and many COMMONWEALTH countries that have citizens very happy with their freedom and democracy.

Rubbish. They are full of white people that killed all the brown and black people. WTF is the matter with you?

Why don't you ask them (before the lefty cunts allow their countries to be fucked up with mass migration of ISLAMISTS)

Same with the Islamic empires too.

ALL of them have NO democracy. They KILL people for not believing in Mohammads disgusting crap. Homosexuals are stoned to death.

But hey - Sculptors ergo Chaz Wymans of the English nation will continually sell out our nation to ISLAMIC immigration - because he is so dumb to compare ALL religions as equal.

I hate Christian infiltration far more than the minor influx of Moslims most of whose second generation become part of secular society.
The problam at the moment is Islamiphobia which tends to make them retrench and protect their heritage.
If only c*nts like you were more tolerant them more Moslims would accept the real god of atheism and adopt secular culture as so many before them have.
SO why don't you f*ck off and try to be a bit nicer?
So why don't you get off your spotty backside , get out of your dungeon and go and kiss a brown person?

[attofishpi]

Check it out - Sculptor - telling us "white" people to fuck off!! - --- WHY? Because we are white!!

Sculptor - perhaps you should fuck off to Rwanda or Somalia? :

..but no, this **** will allow all the Rwanda and Somalis into ....ANYWHERE of Britian - but NOT his own neighbourhood.

PS. Apparently Atheism has a God!

[Age]

"attofishpi", have you expressed this hatred of "islam" and "muslims" previously, before these new threads of yours in the last few days?

Or, has this hatred only begun, or expanded, after the so-called "your muslim doctor" had the nerve to tell you that "jesus christ" is a load of rubbish as that "doctor" viewed your website art?

Why did you tell her that "islam" is a load of bollocks?

And, why, exactly, is "that doctor" not "your doctor" anymore?

[Veritas Aequitas]

K: and you seem to think that the bible is two, distinct and separate books,
with different authors, different messages and no, NO, connection with
each other... and you miss the really basic point that Jesus, of the NT
is Jewish...of which the first book of the bible, the OT is the Jewish history....
Jesus was Jewish in every way, shape and form... and if you had called
him a Christian, he would have no idea what you were talking about....
if you remove the history of the Jews, the story of the OT, in reading
the second part, the NT would make no sense of any kind....
and in removing the OT, you damage both books of the bible....
the one needs the other....

VA: Whoever is a Christian must have entered into a covenant [divine contract] with God/Jesus and obligated to comply with the terms of contract within the Gospels only and no where else, not OT, Epistles nor Acts.
Therefore the above verses from the OT are irrelevant to the essence of Christianity [Gospels only].

K: once again, acting as if the two books are totally isolated from each other...
like one had nothing to do with the other.... are you saying that the god
of the OT, is not god at all? But someone radically different? to make
that argument is to suggest that god isn't god at all because
the entire point of the bible is to suggest that there is a god and he/she/it,
is the one true god... that the god of Genesis is not the god of the NT....
and that might be the most radical theological idea I have ever heard...

VA: The overriding maxim of the Gospels of Christianity is 'love all, even enemies' 'give the other cheek and other pacifists maxims.
Whatever is relevant to Luke 19:27 cannot be condoning evil else it would be contradicting the overriding pacifist maxim.

Here is from AI [wR];
.........

K: the rest of this is trying to somehow, in some fashion, pretend the bible
is really only the NT, and the OT doesn't count in any, way, shape or form....

if the OT doesn't count, then the NT doesn't count either.... it is a packaged deal..
if you accept one, you have to accept the other... you can't separate them out
because it is inconvenient to your beliefs...

Kropotkin

You think you know better than God?

For the Abrahamic, there is only one God who is omnipotent, omnipresent & omniscient plus omni-whatever necessary.
God the all-powerful has His reasons why there are two main books which are distinct for the Christians. God did not combine them as 'The Bible'.
Note the supposedly 'same' God later introduced another new covenant is in the Quran.

For Christians, note the 'Christ' in 'Christian' there is implied covenant [divine contract] between God and the Christian.
For Christianity there is the New Contract [covenant].
I will use the terms covenant and contract interchangeably to convey its significance.

Christians view the New Covenant as a new relationship between God and humans mediated by Jesus upon sincere declaration that one believes in Jesus Christ as Lord and God.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Covenant#:

Do you understand the Principles of Contract [Covenant] Law?

The key elements of contract law include offer, acceptance, consideration, intention to create legal relations, and certainty of terms.
https://www.studysmarter.co.uk/explanat ... tract-law/

The contract between a Christian and God is implied when a believer ACCEPT [with consideration in surrendering their life] the OFFER by God/Jesus in John 3:16.
The contract is for the Christian to be promised eternal life [salvation] in heaven in exchange for the Christian to comply with the "terms of contract" in the New Contract.

Since it is a NEW COVENANT [the contract] the 'terms of contract' can only be in the words of Christs i.e. in the Gospels ONLY, not the Acts and Epistles which are merely appendixes and guiding notes to the terms of contract.

Since it is a NEW COVENANT, the old Contract [re OT] is abandoned and void but the Christians use the OT as a reference where applicable to the new contract.

In a proper contract [covenant] there cannot be contradictions; there would be contradictions if the OT and Gospels were to be considered together in a contract. That would make God very stupid in contract his is claim of omnipotence and omniscience.

[Veritas Aequitas]

And, 'I' am telling 'you' that what 'you' interpret in the Koran, or absolutely anywhere else, could be a complete misrepresentation of what was actually meant.

Quran 2:191-193.
“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone”


I interpret that as Muslims being instructed to kill anyone that doesn't believe in Allah. How do you interpret that?

In some countries the education authorities aim to teach that historical interpretation of scriptures is better than literal interpretation.

Muslims and their authorities can teach interpret whatever [historical, literal, etc.] they want, but the essence is God's intention as delivered to M in the Quran.

What is critical is to rely on the effective hermeneutics and exegesis in a detailed analysis of the Quran's 114 chapters, 6236 verses, >77K of words and the life stories of M, to get into the essence of the terms of contract [covenant, Mithaq] between a Muslim and Allah.

Quran 2:191-193.
“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone”

The above [and >300 similarly violent related verses] may be interpreted in terms of contexts and circumstances but their underlying principle is in 5:33 kill infidels if fasadin -the slightest threat to the religion; even drawing of cartoons is a fasadin where the above Quran 2:191-193 [& >300 related verses] can be applied upon the infidels.
Worst of all, disbelieving in the religion is a threat, because disbelievers can influence Muslim to convert out and the religion will disappear.

My detailed analysis of the Quran, show more than 3400 [appx 55%] refer to infidels in some negative way, thus set the very primal 'us vs them' hatred tone, mood and attitude for the believers.

The religion is inherently toxic.
It is not reasonable to all Muslims as toxic because the majority of humans are not toxic prone.
Every Muslim is CONTRACTED [mithaq] with Allah to comply 100% with the terms of contract in the Quran to the best of their abilities, thus to adopt a negative attitude to non-believers or kill them if possible and necessary.
But if only 20% or even 10% are serious fundamentalist driven by the terror of existential angst, that would be a pool of 300 million or 150 million evil prone Muslims respectively around the world.
This is why the religion [with 10-20% of evil prone believers] is such a toxic brew.

[Veritas Aequitas]

No.
The Abrahamic religions took control of the world. In Britain it took control of the British Empire to help Satan killi millions and control the world.

The British Empire created USA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA and many COMMONWEALTH countries that have citizens very happy with their freedom and democracy.

Rubbish. They are full of white people that killed all the brown and black people. WTF is the matter with you?

Why don't you ask them (before the lefty cunts allow their countries to be fucked up with mass migration of ISLAMISTS)

Same with the Islamic empires too.

ALL of them have NO democracy. They KILL people for not believing in Mohammads disgusting crap. Homosexuals are stoned to death.

But hey - Sculptors ergo Chaz Wymans of the English nation will continually sell out our nation to ISLAMIC immigration - because he is so dumb to compare ALL religions as equal.

I hate Christian infiltration far more than the minor influx of Moslims most of whose second generation become part of secular society.
The problam at the moment is Islamiphobia which tends to make them retrench and protect their heritage.
If only c*nts like you were more tolerant them more Moslims would accept the real god of atheism and adopt secular culture as so many before them have.
SO why don't you f*ck off and try to be a bit nicer?
So why don't you get off your spotty backside , get out of your dungeon and go and kiss a brown person?

You are ignorant.

Christianity-proper and contractually [convenantly] is a pacifist religion where all Christians must comply with the overriding maxims in their contract with God, e.g. 'love all, even enemies' 'give the other cheek' etc.

Where 'Christians' commit evil acts, they are doing it on their personal basis as evil people or for various secular reasons; they CANNOT be committing evil as a Christian-proper in the name of Jesus or God as this is not provided with the terms of their contract with God.

Christianity do have other negatives but not evil laden ones. However, given the current psychological states of the majority, Christianity [& other pacifist religion] are a critical necessity for the majority of theists, so we have no other choice but tolerate them until they can do better.

But Islam per se is toxic and coerced some % who are naturally prone to evil to commit evil as obligated within their terms of contract.
By the terms of their contract, Muslims are not support to integrate with non-believers but keep them at a distance; non-believers are filth and dirty animals as stated in the Quran.
Therefore the majority of Muslims driven by the terror of angst within will not integrate with non-believers because in doing so, they are likely to end up in Hell.

[Quran 5:51] Believers, do not consider the Jews and Christians as your intimate friends for they are only friends with each other. Whoever does so will be considered as one of them. God does not guide the unjust people. -Muhammad Sarwar

Don't spew ignorance; read up the Quran thoroughly in its overall context.

[attofishpi]

Quran 2:191-193.
“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone”


I interpret that as Muslims being instructed to kill anyone that doesn't believe in Allah. How do you interpret that?

In some countries the education authorities aim to teach that historical interpretation of scriptures is better than literal interpretation.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

How does... “Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone”

...get interpretted in any way that is not literal?

[Gary Childress]

Quran 2:191-193.
“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone”


I interpret that as Muslims being instructed to kill anyone that doesn't believe in Allah. How do you interpret that?

In some countries the education authorities aim to teach that historical interpretation of scriptures is better than literal interpretation.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

How does... “Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone”

...get interpretted in any way that is not literal?

I interpret Belinda's post as trying to interject rational discourse.

You're a Christian, right? If you are, then isn't this all in God's hands? "Let go and let God" is an expression I've heard. I can relate to your concerns, though. I have felt extremely uneasy and on edge about the current situation in the world. I hope calmer minds will prevail.

EDIT: And if there's a God then hopefully they will.

[attofishpi]

In some countries the education authorities aim to teach that historical interpretation of scriptures is better than literal interpretation.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

How does... “Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone”

...get interpretted in any way that is not literal?

I interpret Belinda's post as trying to interject rational discourse.

Really..Belinda is insisting this can be interpretted in some other "light" -what is your interpretation?

“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone”