Analysis of misery in life – the way to look at it

[dattaswami]

A learned soul will not ask for stopping misery because God has already cut the salt cake to the required size and it has to be finished. The dosage of misery selected by God is like the dosage of medicine selected by the doctor who analyzes the disease properly. You should not decide about the use of medicine or its dosage. You are an ignorant patient and you are not aware of your internal structure.

The doctor has scanned the internal organs and knows the dosage of the medicine. The doctor knows whether the medicines are to be used or whether the surgery is necessary in the hell. Therefore, you should not pray God to avoid the hell also. How can the patient say that the surgery should be avoided in his case? Even if the soul is thrown in to hell for surgery, the soul should see the kindness of the Doctor-God. Therefore, the soul, surrendered to God will never ask for the removal of misery.

It should ask only for the removal of ignorance-illness. The method of treatment is selected by the Satguru-Doctor-God. Often, the patient cries due to the pain caused by the injection of medicine or surgery and prays to stop the injection of medicine or surgery like the ignorant child.

The learned patient will not find fault with the doctor and the doctor will not bother about that pain. Kuchela (Sudama) was suffering with severe poverty and he did not pray Krishna to remove his poverty because he was a scholar of scriptures.

The Lord also kept silent during his misery since the patient is learned and tolerates the pain of the injection of medicine. If the injection here is denied, the patient certainly needs surgery in the hell. The surgery is far more painful than the injection. Neither the Lord is unkind nor Sudama is ignorant. The father and son are learned doctors and therefore there is no need of the interference of any third party between them.

Rukmini, the wife of the Lord being the mother of the souls recommended the case of Sudama to the Lord. The wife of Sudama was also highly emotional because the Lord being the friend of her husband is keeping silent. She was emotional due to the motherly pain on seeing her starving children.

Both the women could not understand the truth, which was known both to the Father (Lord) and the son (Sudama). Some scholars ask God to exhaust all the sins by continuous punishments so that they can have continuous bliss. It is just like asking the doctor to give a dozen injections on one day itself.

This is also another type of ignorance since the patient wants to take the full dosage of medicines immediately so that illness should disappear on the spot. You must leave every thing to the divine doctor and you should surrender to the doctor who is the best judge of the medicine and its dosage.

If all the sins are exhausted, the soul will be bored with continuous happiness and the misery due to boring is generated. In the beginning (Kruta Yuga) there was continuous happiness because God created pure souls only. In course of time the continuous happiness bored them and misery was generated from the continuous happiness itself. Happiness is the mother of misery.

The misery produced in the continuous happiness is special because it is generated without any sin. Therefore, God never created misery. Hence, both who like to stop misery and who like to continue the miseries are not wise because the patients are becoming doctors in their own cases. Even a doctor on becoming a patient consults another doctor. In such case the patient who is not a doctor acting as doctor in his own case is really pitiable.

[Gary Childress]

A learned soul will not ask for stopping misery.

Well, believe it or not this "learned" soul with 55 years of mental health-related misery does just that--is asking for a stop to his misery. So you might have to rethink your premise there.

[Gary Childress]

the rest of your "analysis" kind of reminds me of this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

[promethean75]

hindu gods are much more capricious in manner and indifferent in attitude than the jewish gods, gary. suffering to the hindu is not a condition bestowed upon man by a punishing god becuz of some sin commited, etc. it's simply a necessary part of material existence... to be thought of as a challenge to be overcome, not a sentence to be served.

I'm tellin u gary jewish/christian pathology is a very special case of deep seated soul sickness and a sense of guilt. They hate the world bro... this imperfect platonic copy... this separation from God. It's so bizarre dude. i remember crying at summer camp when i was being saved cuz the guy reading the bible and doing all the formalities of the procedure made me feel like a total loser with the stuff he wuz sayin about my fallen state and my evil sinful nature and how i wuz gonna burn if I didn't accept J as my main dude, etc.

they try'ta break u down, gary, try'ta humiliate you and shame you, try'ta make u dependent on them to be redeemed from yourself u sinner!

[vegetariantaxidermy]

hindu gods are much more capricious in manner and indifferent in attitude than the jewish gods, gary. suffering to the hindu is not a condition bestowed upon man by a punishing god becuz of some sin commited, etc. it's simply a necessary part of material existence... to be thought of as a challenge to be overcome, not a sentence to be served.

I'm tellin u gary jewish/christian pathology is a very special case of deep seated soul sickness and a sense of guilt. They hate the world bro... this imperfect platonic copy... this separation from God. It's so bizarre dude. i remember crying at summer camp when i was being saved cuz the guy reading the bible and doing all the formalities of the procedure made me feel like a total loser with the stuff he wuz sayin about my fallen state and my evil sinful nature and how i wuz gonna burn if I didn't accept J as my main dude, etc.

they try'ta break u down, gary, try'ta humiliate you and shame you, try'ta make u dependent on them to be redeemed from yourself u sinner!

I say get rid of all the bullshit altogether. You make Hindu sound 'better'. It still made/makes? a habit of burning women alive after their husband died. Hindus still greatly favour male offspring. It's all superstitious excrement whatever way you look at it.

[promethean75]

that's the law, veg. if you end up a burnt alive widow well you musta did something bad in your last life and now you gotta pay for it. same for the caste system. we all answer to the karmic dictates of the gahaviditabravada.

[Iwannaplato]

suffering to the hindu is not a condition bestowed upon man by a punishing god becuz of some sin commited, etc. it's simply a necessary part of material existence...

The poor Hindu doesn't realize that not being pleased with suffering and misery is a part of life. They need to get used to that. Because otherwise they are asking us to accept and accept and accept, when they can't accept. And what is it they can't accept....humans.

[popeye1945]

It also states in Hindu philosophy, that perhaps the gods did not create man, but perhaps man created the gods----how about that for a bit of rationality!

[Agent Smith]

The OP is a bold attempt if you know what I mean. I work for my boss, my boss works for his boss, his boss works for another boss who in turn has his very own boss ... so and so forth!

[Iwannaplato]

The OP is a bold attempt if you know what I mean. I work for my boss, my boss works for his boss, his boss works for another boss who in turn has his very own boss ... so and so forth!

The boss gave us limbic systems. They are thus part of the salt cake. God, if anyone, any boss, should be able to handle and understand, if not even share, our reactions coming from the limbic system.

A learned soul will not ask for stopping misery because God has already cut the salt cake to the required size and it has to be finished.

Stop the misery!!

The salt cake is not just outside us ,dattaswami, it's in our limbic systems, emotions, desires as well.
Why do you hate part of the salt cake?

[Agent Smith]

The OP is a bold attempt if you know what I mean. I work for my boss, my boss works for his boss, his boss works for another boss who in turn has his very own boss ... so and so forth!

The boss gave us limbic systems. They are thus part of the salt cake. God, if anyone, any boss, should be able to handle and understand, if not even share, our reactions coming from the limbic system.

A learned soul will not ask for stopping misery because God has already cut the salt cake to the required size and it has to be finished.

Stop the misery!!

The salt cake is not just outside us ,dattaswami, it's in our limbic systems, emotions, desires as well.
Why do you hate part of the salt cake?

Oui, oui monsieur! We're desperate; when were we not, oui?

The sky is overcast where I am, no rain though. All good?

[Iwannaplato]

Oui, oui monsieur! We're desperate; when were we not, oui?

The sky is overcast where I am, no rain though. All good?

Same where I am. No, not all is good. But today should be ok, barring catastrophic intrusions.

[Agent Smith]

Oui, oui monsieur! We're desperate; when were we not, oui?

The sky is overcast where I am, no rain though. All good?

Same where I am. No, not all is good. But today should be ok, barring catastrophic intrusions.

I see! So not all is good? Germany is a beautiful country I hear. Never been there though! I forget things though - could be early, nay, late onset Alzhenimers. Time has taken its toll on me poor brain!

[Agent Smith]

Oui, oui monsieur! We're desperate; when were we not, oui?

The sky is overcast where I am, no rain though. All good?

Same where I am. No, not all is good. But today should be ok, barring catastrophic intrusions.

I see! So not all is good? Germany is a beautiful country I hear. Never been there though! I forget things - could be early, nay, late onset Alzhenimers. Time has taken its toll on me poor brain!

[Iwannaplato]

Oui, oui monsieur! We're desperate; when were we not, oui?

The sky is overcast where I am, no rain though. All good?

Same where I am. No, not all is good. But today should be ok, barring catastrophic intrusions.

I see! So not all is good? Germany is a beautiful country I hear. Never been there though! I forget things though - could be early, nay, late onset Alzhenimers. Time has taken its toll on me poor brain!

No, all is not good, in my individual life and in the world around me. And there are a lot of threats today on both levels for me. I'm not in Germany, but I may have misunderstood how that country came up. Rather not say where I am but I'm an expat in Europe alright.