#LiesAboutElectionFraud

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Immanuel Can wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 7:17 pm When somebody complains about "lies about election fraud," especially long after the election, you know they're feeling vulnerable. They don't want there to be any allegation of fraud because they suspect (or know) there was some. If they thought the whole thing was above-board, they wouldn't even bother to post something like this.
My purpose here is to derive effective counter-propaganda
that can break through Trump's Nazi styled propaganda
to deprogram that 45% of the electorate that have been taken
in by this "big lie"
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PeteOlcott wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 8:11 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 7:17 pm When somebody complains about "lies about election fraud," especially long after the election, you know they're feeling vulnerable. They don't want there to be any allegation of fraud because they suspect (or know) there was some. If they thought the whole thing was above-board, they wouldn't even bother to post something like this.
My purpose here is to derive effective counter-propaganda
that can break through Trump's Nazi styled propaganda
to deprogram that 45% of the electorate that have been taken
in by this "big lie"
You're fragile. You're pretty sure Biden cheated, and you don't want it to become an issue. If it were otherwise, you wouldn't be mentioning election fraud 3 years after the last election. Your nervousness betrays you.
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Re: #LiesAboutElectionFraud

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PeteOlcott wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 3:56 pm
Age wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 3:38 am
PeteOlcott wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 8:05 pm

That big yellow in the original post.
Okay.

Now, are you asking me a question here, or are you telling me here?

See, you wrote a statement, but have put a question mark at the end of it.
#ElectionFraudLies
Do you agree that this message is truthful?

Here is its basis:

Total cases of election fraud everywhere in the USA was 1499 over the last three years. If collected together they would not even nudge the closest 2020 presidential election in Arizona where Biden won by 10,457 votes. https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie#D ... n_election
If the words, 'this message', refers to the message in the yellow box, then no.
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Age wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 4:19 am
If the words, 'this message', refers to the message in the yellow box, then no.
Which of these verified facts do you disagree with?
Total cases of election fraud everywhere in the USA was 1499 over the last three years. If collected together they would not even nudge the closest 2020 presidential election in Arizona where Biden won by 10,457 votes. https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
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PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:04 am
Age wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 4:19 am
If the words, 'this message', refers to the message in the yellow box, then no.
Which of these verified facts do you disagree with?
Why do you call 'them' 'verified facts'.

Absolutely all of that is presented in a way, which references absolutely nothing at all.
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:04 am Total cases of election fraud everywhere in the USA was 1499 over the last three years.
1. Are you absolutely and irrefutably 100% sure that you have been made aware of absolutely every case?

2. Could one case of election fraud, which has not yet been presented, have within it hundreds, thousands, or millions of votes included?
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:04 am If collected together they would not even nudge the closest 2020 presidential election in Arizona where Biden won by 10,457 votes. https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Do you really think that people who were going to vote for the "other side" will not 'now' because they believe that there was a case of election fraud, in the past some time, and so they will 'now' place their vote for the one who just says and claims there was election fraud, in the past?
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Age wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:19 am
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:04 am
Age wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 4:19 am
If the words, 'this message', refers to the message in the yellow box, then no.
Which of these verified facts do you disagree with?
Why do you call 'them' 'verified facts'.

Absolutely all of that is presented in a way, which references absolutely nothing at all.
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:04 am Total cases of election fraud everywhere in the USA was 1499 over the last three years.
1. Are you absolutely and irrefutably 100% sure that you have been made aware of absolutely every case?

2. Could one case of election fraud, which has not yet been presented, have within it hundreds, thousands, or millions of votes included?
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:04 am If collected together they would not even nudge the closest 2020 presidential election in Arizona where Biden won by 10,457 votes. https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Do you really think that people who were going to vote for the "other side" will not 'now' because they believe that there was a case of election fraud, in the past some time, and so they will 'now' place their vote for the one who just says and claims there was election fraud, in the past?
Evangelical Christians will change their vote once they notice that Trump is lying about election fraud.
They will understand that supporting a Liar swears their own allegiance to the father of all lies.
Swinging their vote is enough to turn the election results around.
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Exhaustive fact check finds little evidence of voter fraud, but 2020’s ‘Big Lie’ lives on

More than a year after President Joe Biden won the 2020 election, former President Donald Trump and his allies still insist without evidence that widespread voter fraud led to a stolen election. A new reporting project from the Associated Press shows that is false, finding fewer than 475 potential instances out of more than 25 million votes cast. Judy Woodruff speaks to reporter Christina Cassidy.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/exhau ... e-lives-on
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PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 3:07 pm
Age wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:19 am
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:04 am

Which of these verified facts do you disagree with?
Why do you call 'them' 'verified facts'.

Absolutely all of that is presented in a way, which references absolutely nothing at all.
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:04 am Total cases of election fraud everywhere in the USA was 1499 over the last three years.
1. Are you absolutely and irrefutably 100% sure that you have been made aware of absolutely every case?

2. Could one case of election fraud, which has not yet been presented, have within it hundreds, thousands, or millions of votes included?
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:04 am If collected together they would not even nudge the closest 2020 presidential election in Arizona where Biden won by 10,457 votes. https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Do you really think that people who were going to vote for the "other side" will not 'now' because they believe that there was a case of election fraud, in the past some time, and so they will 'now' place their vote for the one who just says and claims there was election fraud, in the past?
Evangelical Christians will change their vote once they notice that Trump is lying about election fraud.


Every adult human being lies. you lie, "politicians" lie, "evangelical" and "plain christians" lie. So, If "evangelical Christians" do not already know that "donald trump" also lies, then they are stupid. And, why do you put absolutely every "evangelical christian" in the exact same category here? Could it be possible that after "evangelical Christians" finally discover that "donald trump" has been lying that not all of them will change their vote? Or, do you really believe that absolutely all "evangelical Christians" will change their vote?

Also, why is it so very, very important to you that "donald trump" gets as less votes as possible?
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 3:07 pm They will understand that supporting a Liar swears their own allegiance to the father of all lies.


But, by changing their vote they will be supporting another "liar".

Also, why do you believe, absolutely, that that one human being is the so-called 'father of all lies'?
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 3:07 pm Swinging their vote is enough to turn the election results around.
Obviously, that is why it is called 'swinging'.

If enough 'swing', then 'the results' are 'changed', either way I will add.
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PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:37 pm Exhaustive fact check finds little evidence of voter fraud, but 2020’s ‘Big Lie’ lives on
It is 'living on', here, because you keep 'going on' about it, here.
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:37 pm More than a year after President Joe Biden won the 2020 election, former President Donald Trump and his allies still insist without evidence that widespread voter fraud led to a stolen election.
Some of you adult human beings still insist, without any proof at all, that the Universe began, from absolutely nothing or from some male gendered creature, and is expanding.

But so what?

A lot of you human beings keep insisting things that are, obviously and provable, untrue.

See, you beings prefer to believe some things are true, when they are obviously not to others. But, what can you do about it? Telling and spreading misinformation or more lies is doing nothing more than just making 'you' exactly like 'the other'.
PeteOlcott wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:37 pm A new reporting project from the Associated Press shows that is false, finding fewer than 475 potential instances out of more than 25 million votes cast. Judy Woodruff speaks to reporter Christina Cassidy.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/exhau ... e-lives-on
Okay. But, I am pretty sure other people could 'find' 'a reporting project', which states/concludes the opposite, or request 'another reporting project' be done that ends up 'finding' or concluding the opposite.

After all you adult human beings do have a tendency to only 'see' what you are 'looking for'.

Also, have you never considered that the sooner someone like "donald trump" 'gets in', and does the damage that one like that one will obviously end up doing, then the quicker that that 'whole 'cult'/ure of human beings', who live in 'that one very little country', could actually notice just how Wrong and bad their thinking has really been, for so long, which might then begin a whole r/evolutionary change, for the better, of not just for 'those people' living in that one country but for all the people living on planet earth?
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Age wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:51 am Also, have you never considered that the sooner someone like "donald trump" 'gets in', and does the damage that one like that one will obviously end up doing, then the quicker that that 'whole 'cult'/ure of human beings', who live in 'that one very little country', could actually notice just how Wrong and bad their thinking has really been, for so long, which might then begin a whole r/evolutionary change, for the better, of not just for 'those people' living in that one country but for all the people living on planet earth?
Trump is a Hitler Wanna Bee we already had too many of them.
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PeteOlcott wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 6:03 am
Age wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:51 am Also, have you never considered that the sooner someone like "donald trump" 'gets in', and does the damage that one like that one will obviously end up doing, then the quicker that that 'whole 'cult'/ure of human beings', who live in 'that one very little country', could actually notice just how Wrong and bad their thinking has really been, for so long, which might then begin a whole r/evolutionary change, for the better, of not just for 'those people' living in that one country but for all the people living on planet earth?
Trump is a Hitler Wanna Bee we already had too many of them.
Was it not already completely obvious that when "donald trump" was 'budding' up to human beings like "valadimir putin" and "kim jong un" who "donald trump" admired, looked up to, wished to be like, and desired to 'run/control' a country like?

The quicker "donald trump" 'gets in', takes absolute power and control over the citizens of that very lost country, and destroys 'that way of life', then the quicker the people of the whole world will 'see' what is actually Wrong, and Right, in Life, and then CHANGE, for the better of every one. So, the quicker "donald trump" 'gets in', 'wreaks havoc' on 'the world', then the quicker 'the world' can, and will, change, for the better.

So, hopefully, there are enough 'very lost souls', in 'that country', who decide that they 'need' a "leader" just like 'that one'.
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Age wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 7:02 am
PeteOlcott wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 6:03 am
Age wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:51 am Also, have you never considered that the sooner someone like "donald trump" 'gets in', and does the damage that one like that one will obviously end up doing, then the quicker that that 'whole 'cult'/ure of human beings', who live in 'that one very little country', could actually notice just how Wrong and bad their thinking has really been, for so long, which might then begin a whole r/evolutionary change, for the better, of not just for 'those people' living in that one country but for all the people living on planet earth?
Trump is a Hitler Wanna Bee we already had too many of them.
Was it not already completely obvious that when "donald trump" was 'budding' up to human beings like "valadimir putin" and "kim jong un" who "donald trump" admired, looked up to, wished to be like, and desired to 'run/control' a country like?

The quicker "donald trump" 'gets in', takes absolute power and control over the citizens of that very lost country, and destroys 'that way of life', then the quicker the people of the whole world will 'see' what is actually Wrong, and Right, in Life, and then CHANGE, for the better of every one. So, the quicker "donald trump" 'gets in', 'wreaks havoc' on 'the world', then the quicker 'the world' can, and will, change, for the better.

So, hopefully, there are enough 'very lost souls', in 'that country', who decide that they 'need' a "leader" just like 'that one'.
Because he is using Hitler's own "big lie" in an attempt to overthrow Democracy
I do not see Nazi death camps as being out of the question.

Is it OK with you if he puts you in one of those?
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PeteOlcott wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:09 pm
Age wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 7:02 am
PeteOlcott wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 6:03 am

Trump is a Hitler Wanna Bee we already had too many of them.
Was it not already completely obvious that when "donald trump" was 'budding' up to human beings like "valadimir putin" and "kim jong un" who "donald trump" admired, looked up to, wished to be like, and desired to 'run/control' a country like?

The quicker "donald trump" 'gets in', takes absolute power and control over the citizens of that very lost country, and destroys 'that way of life', then the quicker the people of the whole world will 'see' what is actually Wrong, and Right, in Life, and then CHANGE, for the better of every one. So, the quicker "donald trump" 'gets in', 'wreaks havoc' on 'the world', then the quicker 'the world' can, and will, change, for the better.

So, hopefully, there are enough 'very lost souls', in 'that country', who decide that they 'need' a "leader" just like 'that one'.
Because he is using Hitler's own "big lie" in an attempt to overthrow Democracy


What is your 'because' word here in relation to, exactly?

PeteOlcott wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:09 pm I do not see Nazi death camps as being out of the question.


If that is what "your leader" wants, then that is what you will get.
PeteOlcott wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:09 pm Is it OK with you if he puts you in one of those?
That could not possibly happen, to 'I'.
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