Well sure, but either that magic mojo exists in a 100% deterministic context, or it exists in a less deterministic (and thus more random) context. And since the randomness doesn't grant control, it cannot really grant responsibility. In my view anyway.phyllo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:38 pmHe doesn't think it's about randomness.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:47 amRandomness doesn't give you responsibility. If you accept the concept of responsibility in an indeterminate universe, and the only difference between indeterminism and determinism is randomness, and it's true that randomness doesn't grant you responsibility, then you have exactly as much responsibility in a deterministic universe as you do in an indeterminate one.iambiguous wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:13 pm
Click.
Different audience.
How about this...
In a wholly determined universe as some understand it, I was never able to not post it at both forums.
Now, for the compatibilists among us, please explain how you reconcile this with my still being responsible for doing so.
In other words, I was never able to freely opt to not post it at both forums, but I can still be scolded justly by you for doing so.
Note to Mary:
Maybe next time.
He thinks free-will gives you some sort of magic mojo which lets you respond in an unlimited way in any situation.
Nice to see you btw phyllo. Did you know I'm a fan of yours?