Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
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Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
I saw a few options, but which is the best, good and so so?
1. Copleston
2. A. Kenny
3. Russell
... any other good ones?
The Copleston is in 11 volumes - maybe too much in quantity? But quality?
The Kenny is in 4 volumes, while Russell is 1 volume.
1. Copleston
2. A. Kenny
3. Russell
... any other good ones?
The Copleston is in 11 volumes - maybe too much in quantity? But quality?
The Kenny is in 4 volumes, while Russell is 1 volume.
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Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
Wiki?
From Wiki therefrom, compile and organize your own version of History of Western Philosophy.
From Wiki therefrom, compile and organize your own version of History of Western Philosophy.
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Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
Are the printed books obsolete? Are the online contents as good as the printed books?Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:08 am Wiki?
From Wiki therefrom, compile and organize your own version of History of Western Philosophy.
The Stanford univ. encyclopaedia seems excellent actually.
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Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
The point is when we read Russell [large volumes] or Copplestone [many large volumes], it is very tedious and there are elements of biasness by the authors.Zarathustra wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:02 pmAre the printed books obsolete? Are the online contents as good as the printed books?Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:08 am Wiki?
From Wiki therefrom, compile and organize your own version of History of Western Philosophy.
The Stanford univ. encyclopaedia seems excellent actually.
The advantage of Wiki is that it can give you a quick very extensive view [with some need for compilation, draw a timeline and themes] of the History of Western Philosophy. In this case, we can get to the main themes easily.
In addition, the main and each sub-topic in Wiki are supplemented with a bibliography and references where one can go into the details.
SEP or Standard is good for getting into the details, not so much for general philosophy.
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Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
Sure. Good point.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:40 am
The point is when we read Russell [large volumes] or Copplestone [many large volumes], it is very tedious and there are elements of biasness by the authors.
The advantage of Wiki is that it can give you a quick very extensive view [with some need for compilation, draw a timeline and themes] of the History of Western Philosophy. In this case, we can get to the main themes easily.
In addition, the main and each sub-topic in Wiki are supplemented with a bibliography and references where one can go into the details.
SEP or Standard is good for getting into the details, not so much for general philosophy.
Have you tried the Stanford University Encyclopaedia of Philosophy site? It seems excellent too.
But Wiki is very nice to get summarised idea of the topics or philosophers of history, I suppose.
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Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
Whenever I want to get into the details I will go for the primary sources [the books by the respective authors] then read up the relevant topics in SEP andZarathustra wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:24 amSure. Good point.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:40 am
The point is when we read Russell [large volumes] or Copplestone [many large volumes], it is very tedious and there are elements of biasness by the authors.
The advantage of Wiki is that it can give you a quick very extensive view [with some need for compilation, draw a timeline and themes] of the History of Western Philosophy. In this case, we can get to the main themes easily.
In addition, the main and each sub-topic in Wiki are supplemented with a bibliography and references where one can go into the details.
SEP or Standard is good for getting into the details, not so much for general philosophy.
Have you tried the Stanford University Encyclopaedia of Philosophy site? It seems excellent too.
But Wiki is very nice to get summarised idea of the topics or philosophers of history, I suppose.
IEP. https://iep.utm.edu/
Noted most of the philosophy articles in Wiki will also refer to SEP.
Another source is Encyclopedia Britannica
https://www.britannica.com/
Another good source is
https://philpapers.org/
but they only supply the related references.
To do good philosophy one has to search every nook and cranny related to a topic to ensure one do not miss out any critical points.
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Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
Wow. Great great links. Maybe we don't need to buy any more printed books ever again !!!Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:28 am
Whenever I want to get into the details I will go for the primary sources [the books by the respective authors] then read up the relevant topics in SEP and
IEP. https://iep.utm.edu/
Noted most of the philosophy articles in Wiki will also refer to SEP.
Another source is Encyclopedia Britannica
https://www.britannica.com/
Another good source is
https://philpapers.org/
but they only supply the related references.
To do good philosophy one has to search every nook and cranny related to a topic to ensure one do not miss out any critical points.
Thanks. I bookmarked all the links. Seem jewel of philosophical information in there.
Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
To do good philosophy one first has to do some meta-philosophy. Ask the question "What is the point of making points?"Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:28 am To do good philosophy one has to search every nook and cranny related to a topic to ensure one do not miss out any critical points.
You are going to be aimlessly wandering about the depths of other people's writing/ideas/minds not knowing what it is you are looking for and why.
You don't have to get the answer right the first time, but you have to have a vague idea what "it" is you are looking for.
WHY are you DOING philosophy?
Me, I like Luciano Floridi's world-view. The Logic of Information: A Theory of Philosophy as Conceptual Design.
To me the process of Philosophy is the process of inventing yourself.
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Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
I agree we have to do the above.Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pmTo do good philosophy one first has to do some meta-philosophy. Ask the question "What is the point of making points?"Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:28 am To do good philosophy one has to search every nook and cranny related to a topic to ensure one do not miss out any critical points.
You are going to be aimlessly wandering about the depths of other people's writing/ideas/minds not knowing what it is you are looking for and why.
You don't have to get the answer right the first time, but you have to have a vague idea what "it" is you are looking for.
WHY are you DOING philosophy?
Me, I like Luciano Floridi's world-view. The Logic of Information: A Theory of Philosophy as Conceptual Design.
To me the process of Philosophy is the process of inventing yourself.
Note I mentioned timelines, themes and obviously we must understand 'what is philosophy' as a critical requirement.
RE "search every nook and cranny" that is one requirement to ensure we have covered all grounds and taken everything known, said and discussed about the subject.
Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
The strategy you propose seems unattainable, for if the answer to "What is philosophy?" requires one to read every single philosophical book ever written then...Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:55 am I agree we have to do the above.
Note I mentioned timelines, themes and obviously we must understand 'what is philosophy' as a critical requirement.
RE "search every nook and cranny" that is one requirement to ensure we have covered all grounds and taken everything known, said and discussed about the subject.
Nobody can ever attain an answer.
One needs a theory of Philosophy before doing ANY philosophy. One needs a framework through which to interpret philosophy itself.
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Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
Where did I say we MUST read every book or everything before we conclude 'What is Philosophy'.Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:03 amThe strategy you propose seems unattainable, for if the answer to "What is philosophy?" requires one to read every single philosophical book ever written then...Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:55 am I agree we have to do the above.
Note I mentioned timelines, themes and obviously we must understand 'what is philosophy' as a critical requirement.
RE "search every nook and cranny" that is one requirement to ensure we have covered all grounds and taken everything known, said and discussed about the subject.
Nobody can ever attain an answer.
One needs a theory of Philosophy before doing ANY philosophy. One needs a framework through which to interpret philosophy itself.
Re 'What is Philosophy' one need to read and be familiar with a sufficient samples to extract the common essence to come up with a reasonable definition that can cohere with every and any aspect of philosophy. Thereafter one should continue to explore nooks and crannies related to the point as with all other aspects of philosophy.
Framework??? I have mentioned the requirement of such a "1,000,000" times already in this forum.
Re: Recommendation for History of Western Philosophy?
I notice you are being non-committal here.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:09 am Where did I say we MUST read every book or everything before we conclude 'What is Philosophy'.
Re 'What is Philosophy' one need to read and be familiar with a sufficient samples to extract the common essence to come up with a reasonable definition that can cohere with every and any aspect of philosophy.
What entails a sufficient sample?
What entails a representative sample?
How does one know their definition is "reasonable"?
How does one understand whether a definition coheres with every aspect of philosophy?
We had one question "What is philosophy?" and now we have 5! Questions all the way down!
I've seen no framework that answers "What is philosophy?" in a sufficient, representative reasonable and coherent manner!!!Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:09 am Thereafter one should continue to explore nooks and crannies related to the point as with all other aspects of philosophy.
Framework??? I have mentioned the requirement of such a "1,000,000" times already in this forum.