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Is Netanyahoo! just an extremist or quite the fascist?

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Regardless of the deafening silence by the Western mainstream news-media, albeit a convenient one for the powers and interests that be, open-minded media consumers will nonetheless notice the glaring hypocrisy in the bold statements by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Apparently, he, without exception, refuses to allow the children and grandchildren of Palestinians who were forced out of their now-Israeli territories, a “right of return”; meanwhile, Netanyahu welcomes, if not encourages, Jewish settlements, via the Israeli army’s destruction and forcible removal of enough Palestinian homes and their owners to enable them to be replaced with settlements of virtually-entirely white American-, Canadian- and British-born citizens of Jewish ancestry.
Unlike one or two of his give-and-take-negotiations, non-Likud predecessors, Netanyahu’s use of the terms “peace deals” and “negotiations” are as hollow as hollow can be, especially judging from the manner in which he waves off and boldly dismisses any compromise on the part his government for the sake of true peace with the Palestinians: It sadly, unjustly, very much appears that the Palestinians will get naught but what the Israeli government feels like giving them; for, just by observing how the bipartisan U.S. House of Congress, Senate and Presidency unconditionally follow his lead, Netanyahu appears quite confident that his Israeli team holds all of the cards.
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He's both those words and more. He and the other leaders of Israel continue doing a job that has been planned-out into the future. Step 1. Do this. Step 2. Now do this. It is completely twisted what's going on there. Yet it is defended by those with power, so it continues and escalates.
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I hope Bibi tears downs the dome of the rock and rebuilds the temple of David.

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:lol: Look after it then as when Christ returns they'll be having it all back.
p.s.
I'll not be surprised if this happens as the Jew has long been intolerant of other religions. In fact your thought puts me in mind of the Talibans approach to the Buddha. Although from what I gather the Zionist is doing a better job in their revisionist cultural and archaeological history. Apparently they learnt a lot from Josef and Adolph.
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Just remember Israel is the little devil and America and the West is the big devil. That most likely covers you.
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Who?

As I believe neither of these things.
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You seriously need to get your facts straight. Furthermore, there is no right for the so-called palestinians, who are a made-up ethnic group, to any land in Israel short of them paying for it on the free market. Do these so-called palestinians have deeds to the land? No. Are we to ignore the fact that in every nation some group of people could claim their ancestors lived on the land at some earlier time, and now they are magically entitled to the land? If everyone thought like the so-called palis, then the world would be in absolute chaos.
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FrankGSterleJr wrote:Regardless of the deafening silence by the Western mainstream news-media, albeit a convenient one for the powers and interests that be, open-minded media consumers will nonetheless notice the glaring hypocrisy in the bold statements by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Apparently, he, without exception, refuses to allow the children and grandchildren of Palestinians who were forced out of their now-Israeli territories, a “right of return”; meanwhile, Netanyahu welcomes, if not encourages, Jewish settlements, via the Israeli army’s destruction and forcible removal of enough Palestinian homes and their owners to enable them to be replaced with settlements of virtually-entirely white American-, Canadian- and British-born citizens of Jewish ancestry.
Unlike one or two of his give-and-take-negotiations, non-Likud predecessors, Netanyahu’s use of the terms “peace deals” and “negotiations” are as hollow as hollow can be, especially judging from the manner in which he waves off and boldly dismisses any compromise on the part his government for the sake of true peace with the Palestinians: It sadly, unjustly, very much appears that the Palestinians will get naught but what the Israeli government feels like giving them; for, just by observing how the bipartisan U.S. House of Congress, Senate and Presidency unconditionally follow his lead, Netanyahu appears quite confident that his Israeli team holds all of the cards.
Israel is morally bankrupt.
It has no interest in peace as its raison d'être is war.
There are too many vested interests in maintaining the status quo of the cycle of violence initiated by M. Begin in 1947.
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ForgedinHell wrote:... No. Are we to ignore the fact that in every nation some group of people could claim their ancestors lived on the land at some earlier time, and now they are magically entitled to the land? If everyone thought like the so-called palis, then the world would be in absolute chaos.
:lol: You mean a little like a 'God' granting a people a promised land?

You appear to ignore that when it was British Mandated the Palestinians did have deeds to their lands, its just that the Zionist thought little of them.

But I agree 'might is right' when it comes to landownership so the Zionist will have nothing to complain about if its taken from them sometime in the future. Although I think it more likely they'll do a Masada and nuke it into a wasteland.
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ForgedinHell wrote:You seriously need to get your facts straight. Furthermore, there is no right for the so-called palestinians, who are a made-up ethnic group, to any land in Israel short of them paying for it on the free market. Do these so-called palestinians have deeds to the land? No. Are we to ignore the fact that in every nation some group of people could claim their ancestors lived on the land at some earlier time, and now they are magically entitled to the land? If everyone thought like the so-called palis, then the world would be in absolute chaos.
Please note the contradiction.
Are we to ignore the fact that in every nation some group of people could claim their ancestors lived on the land at some earlier time, and now they are magically entitled to the land? If everyone thought like the so-called palis, then the world would be in absolute chaos
It is because of this very reason that the state of Israel was founded, and has caused the state of chaos we now suffer from in Palestine.
But for many of the Palestinians, it is not about any 'ancient claim', it is about the continued forceful removal from family homes since 1947 that has been ignored by the world stage. It is about the murder of Palestinian Arabs by Jewish terrorists, that have now been given legitimacy by the Zionist USA, and the arrogance of Britain's Balfour Declaration.
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chaz wyman wrote:
ForgedinHell wrote:You seriously need to get your facts straight. Furthermore, there is no right for the so-called palestinians, who are a made-up ethnic group, to any land in Israel short of them paying for it on the free market. Do these so-called palestinians have deeds to the land? No. Are we to ignore the fact that in every nation some group of people could claim their ancestors lived on the land at some earlier time, and now they are magically entitled to the land? If everyone thought like the so-called palis, then the world would be in absolute chaos.
Please note the contradiction.
Are we to ignore the fact that in every nation some group of people could claim their ancestors lived on the land at some earlier time, and now they are magically entitled to the land? If everyone thought like the so-called palis, then the world would be in absolute chaos
It is because of this very reason that the state of Israel was founded, and has caused the state of chaos we now suffer from in Palestine.
But for many of the Palestinians, it is not about any 'ancient claim', it is about the continued forceful removal from family homes since 1947 that has been ignored by the world stage. It is about the murder of Palestinian Arabs by Jewish terrorists, that have now been given legitimacy by the Zionist USA, and the arrogance of Britain's Balfour Declaration.
I realize that socialists ike you are typically anti-semitic, but your mind has walked off the map. The existence of Israel didn't cause any problems for the so-called Palis, who already have a homeland -- it's called Jordan. Why don't you tell the muslim to take these people in? They have the land and resources. The Israelis took in hundreds of thousands of Jews who were kicked out of their homes in Arab-Muslim nations, with far less land and resources. The muslims don't want peace, and they just use anti-semitic socialists like you. Congradulations on being a first-class loser.

How many rockets have been fired into Israel from Egypt and the so-called Gaza strip in just the past few weeks alone? The answer is well over a hundred. During those attacks, did Israel stop sending in humanitarian aid to Gaza? Nope. Does the world give a damn? Nope. For people like you, the fact Jews exist, that they have won against all odds, there is nothing that a Jew can do to receive respect, except, perhaps, if they become a self-hating Jew who deny the Holocaust and call for the destruction of Israel. HamASS's charter calls for the death of all Jews. Yet, you and your comrades claim they want peace? Get a life.
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Why doesn’t the Israeli government stop pouring barrels of figurative fuel on the fire and place an indefinite moratorium on the continued construction of Jewish settlements on heatedly-disputed land in that area of the Middle East? And why is this concept conveniently (for one politically-potent party), seemingly-intently unmentioned in so many of the mainstream metro-dailies around most of the free world?
Really, what chance do the Palestinians have of statehood in such a (for them) nightmare scenario, especially one with insidious, gradual assaults on and annexations of slabs of the Gaza Strip and West Bank, in the interests of Jewish settlements?
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FrankGSterleJr wrote:Why doesn’t the Israeli government stop pouring barrels of figurative fuel on the fire and place an indefinite moratorium on the continued construction of Jewish settlements on heatedly-disputed land in that area of the Middle East? And why is this concept conveniently (for one politically-potent party), seemingly-intently unmentioned in so many of the mainstream metro-dailies around most of the free world?
Really, what chance do the Palestinians have of statehood in such a (for them) nightmare scenario, especially one with insidious, gradual assaults on and annexations of slabs of the Gaza Strip and West Bank, in the interests of Jewish settlements?
The reason that underlies Isreal's attitude the their neighbours is informed by divine entitlement. I can't imagine what else gives them such hybris.
Israel was founded by a group of terrorists, who after killing British soldiers care-taking the ex-Ottoman province, AND whose nation had promised the Jews a homeland, seized control by coup-detat, and then proceeded to round up Arabs and force them into detention centres. SInce then Israel with the help of the West; primarily the US and UK, has continued to seize land from Israeli arabs, territories from neighbouring Arab nations especially including Palestine, and now has bricked them up behind a very high wall and transformed Gaza into what can optimistically be called a Ghetto, but look more like a concentration camp which is suffering under a massive economic blockade.
I think it is fair to urge the world to accept Israel as a fait-acompli, but a little humility and understanding of the short history of their nation ought to go some way to moderate their behaviour. Sadly there is very little evidence of this, and the west seem only too happy to support them and turn a blind eye to some of the worst aspects of Arab oppression.
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ForgedinHell wrote:YFurthermore, there is no right for the so-called palestinians, who are a made-up ethnic group,
how does that make them different from many other ethnic groups
Do these so-called palestinians have deeds to the land? No.
so if someone does not have a paper stating that they are entitled to a piece of land they are not entitled to it

that is just absurd

also quite a few palestinians do have deeds to the land to which they cannot return
Are we to ignore the fact that in every nation some group of people could claim their ancestors lived on the land at some earlier time, and now they are magically entitled to the land? If everyone thought like the so-called palis, then the world would be in absolute chaos.
but because the jews lived there 2000 years ago they are entitled to it?
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ForgedinHell wrote: HamASS's charter calls for the death of all Jews.
quote please
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