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Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 4:19 pm Are you Jewish?
Are you Zionist is really the more poignant question.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:02 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 4:19 pm Are you Jewish?
Are you Zionist is really the more poignant question.
I think that is clear enough.
I just wondered if s/he was a christian or jewsih Zionist.
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accelafine wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 4:23 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 4:19 pm
accelafine wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 4:14 pm

There is no such place as 'Palestine'.
Are you Jewish?
Are you muslim?
I'm not religious
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Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 12:42 pm
Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:21 am
Sculptor wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:22 pm

Not particularly relevent. He's only a sociopath because of his theism.
And fuck his "conscience". His morals are disgraceful.
That's where you guys (Harbal, FDP) are very mistaken imo, theism can't erase the conscience so universally from someone, especially not Christianity.
Technically IC's morals can't be disgraceful when he can't have any morals at all. He's trying to behave like he had certain morals, but he's merely following thoughts, not morals.
Though his morals are christian, he is not the worst or most immoral christian moralist.
There are thousands in the US egging on the Gaza genocide to bring about "rapture" and the final solution of Armageddon.
It's not that theism erases a conscience, it is that theism justifies a hateful conscience.
The Jews dragged the Christian world into that conflict, otherwise the Christians don't even care about the Middle East.
On a scale of 1 to 5 where we measure humaneness, Judaism is maybe a -2 and Islam a -3, they are both genocidal and will always be as long they exist.
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Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:17 pm The Jews dragged the Christian world into that conflict, otherwise the Christians don't even care about the Middle East.
It would be fair to say that Israel has embroiled the US in the region, and to point to Jewish Neocons outside of Israel as instigators, but Christian Zionism preceded Jewish Zionism, and Evangelicals are more numerous, and more emphatic, and more psychologically unstable and •possessed• than most Jews.

Those Christians don’t care about the people and cultures of the ME because of blind ignorance, but they love their hallucinated abstractions about End Times, final wars, and The Second Coming. They outnumber fanatic Jews (they do exist) 50-1.
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IRAN - President and other evil cunts - gone down in a helicopter crash (apparently) :twisted:
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Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:17 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 12:42 pm
Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:21 am
That's where you guys (Harbal, FDP) are very mistaken imo, theism can't erase the conscience so universally from someone, especially not Christianity.
Technically IC's morals can't be disgraceful when he can't have any morals at all. He's trying to behave like he had certain morals, but he's merely following thoughts, not morals.
Though his morals are christian, he is not the worst or most immoral christian moralist.
There are thousands in the US egging on the Gaza genocide to bring about "rapture" and the final solution of Armageddon.
It's not that theism erases a conscience, it is that theism justifies a hateful conscience.
The Jews dragged the Christian world into that conflict, otherwise the Christians don't even care about the Middle East...
Not true.
CHristians have always been front and centre of Israel/Palestine. Sir Arthur Balfour, a Christian wrote the Declaration handing the territory over to the Jews. Sykes/Pichot the ENglsih and French Officials that carved up the ME after WW1, both CHristian.
Every president of the USA< and France from then to the present day, as well as the Chencellors of Germany and the UK Prime Ministers have all funded and feed the monstrous wars and atrocities over 70+ years.
Without their help Israel would never have been established, and having been established would never have survived.
Now the religious right, (especially) Republicans, push funding decisions, and politicians on both sides love the AIPAC money.
THe shocking irony is that the governments of UK, US, and Germany tax the people, hand over billions to Isreal and Israeli politicians hand some of that money back in millions in open bribes to ensure that the billions contonue to flow. Israel uses that "aid" to buy British and American arms to slaughter women and children.
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Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:45 pm
Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:17 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 12:42 pm

Though his morals are christian, he is not the worst or most immoral christian moralist.
There are thousands in the US egging on the Gaza genocide to bring about "rapture" and the final solution of Armageddon.
It's not that theism erases a conscience, it is that theism justifies a hateful conscience.
The Jews dragged the Christian world into that conflict, otherwise the Christians don't even care about the Middle East...
Not true.
CHristians have always been front and centre of Israel/Palestine. Sir Arthur Balfour, a Christian wrote the Declaration handing the territory over to the Jews. Sykes/Pichot the ENglsih and French Officials that carved up the ME after WW1, both CHristian.
Every president of the USA< and France from then to the present day, as well as the Chencellors of Germany and the UK Prime Ministers have all funded and feed the monstrous wars and atrocities over 70+ years.
Without their help Israel would never have been established, and having been established would never have survived.
Now the religious right, (especially) Republicans, push funding decisions, and politicians on both sides love the AIPAC money.
THe shocking irony is that the governments of UK, US, and Germany tax the people, hand over billions to Isreal and Israeli politicians hand some of that money back in millions in open bribes to ensure that the billions contonue to flow. Israel uses that "aid" to buy British and American arms to slaughter women and children.
Yeah but those countries were all under Jewish control in the last 70+ years.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:11 pm
Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:17 pm The Jews dragged the Christian world into that conflict, otherwise the Christians don't even care about the Middle East.
It would be fair to say that Israel has embroiled the US in the region, and to point to Jewish Neocons outside of Israel as instigators, but Christian Zionism preceded Jewish Zionism, and Evangelicals are more numerous, and more emphatic, and more psychologically unstable and •possessed• than most Jews.

Those Christians don’t care about the people and cultures of the ME because of blind ignorance, but they love their hallucinated abstractions about End Times, final wars, and The Second Coming. They outnumber fanatic Jews (they do exist) 50-1.
How much influence do these Evangelicals have in the US now? Luckily there seem to be few of them in Europe.
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Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:50 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:45 pm
Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:17 pm
The Jews dragged the Christian world into that conflict, otherwise the Christians don't even care about the Middle East...
Not true.
CHristians have always been front and centre of Israel/Palestine. Sir Arthur Balfour, a Christian wrote the Declaration handing the territory over to the Jews. Sykes/Pichot the ENglsih and French Officials that carved up the ME after WW1, both CHristian.
Every president of the USA< and France from then to the present day, as well as the Chencellors of Germany and the UK Prime Ministers have all funded and feed the monstrous wars and atrocities over 70+ years.
Without their help Israel would never have been established, and having been established would never have survived.
Now the religious right, (especially) Republicans, push funding decisions, and politicians on both sides love the AIPAC money.
THe shocking irony is that the governments of UK, US, and Germany tax the people, hand over billions to Isreal and Israeli politicians hand some of that money back in millions in open bribes to ensure that the billions contonue to flow. Israel uses that "aid" to buy British and American arms to slaughter women and children.
Yeah but those countries were all under Jewish control in the last 70+ years.
WTF are you talking about?
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Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:56 pm
Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:50 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:45 pm

Not true.
CHristians have always been front and centre of Israel/Palestine. Sir Arthur Balfour, a Christian wrote the Declaration handing the territory over to the Jews. Sykes/Pichot the ENglsih and French Officials that carved up the ME after WW1, both CHristian.
Every president of the USA< and France from then to the present day, as well as the Chencellors of Germany and the UK Prime Ministers have all funded and feed the monstrous wars and atrocities over 70+ years.
Without their help Israel would never have been established, and having been established would never have survived.
Now the religious right, (especially) Republicans, push funding decisions, and politicians on both sides love the AIPAC money.
THe shocking irony is that the governments of UK, US, and Germany tax the people, hand over billions to Isreal and Israeli politicians hand some of that money back in millions in open bribes to ensure that the billions contonue to flow. Israel uses that "aid" to buy British and American arms to slaughter women and children.
Yeah but those countries were all under Jewish control in the last 70+ years.
WTF are you talking about?
WTF are YOU talking about? You think the UK belongs to the British?
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Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:52 pm How much influence do these Evangelicals have in the US now? Luckily there seem to be few of them in Europe.
It is a pretty large block, and their influence is notably strong, but I could not say more than that.

Christian Zionism is very strong in the US and all presidents since WWll have been Christian Zionists.
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Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:13 pm
accelafine wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 4:23 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 4:19 pm

Are you Jewish?
Are you muslim?
I'm not religious
Why would someone need to be Jewish to know that there's no such place as 'palestine'? It's just fact. It's all Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank. Those so-called 'palestinians' are squatters.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 7:41 pm
Atla wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:52 pm How much influence do these Evangelicals have in the US now? Luckily there seem to be few of them in Europe.
It is a pretty large block, and their influence is notably strong, but I could not say more than that.

Christian Zionism is very strong in the US and all presidents since WWll have been Christian Zionists.
It says Bush Jr. was heavily invested in Evangelicalism, ah so that's a big missing piece of the puzzle (for me). Thanks, didn't know that. Also Carter and Reagan. Here in Europe only 2% are Evangelicals so they aren't much of a factor.
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accelafine wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 8:41 pm Why would someone need to be Jewish to know that there's no such place as 'palestine'? It's just fact. It's all Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank. Those so-called 'palestinians' are squatters.
This is trolling. It's not even good trolling. It's moron level.
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