godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:56 pm
This False belief of your here allows you to formulate, make up, say, and write absolutely False things, claim it is a so-called 'axiom', and then just move along from 'there'. Which is, exactly, and, literally, how you are and have been fooling and deceiving "yourself' here.
You are attacking Aristotelian foundationalism here. Why do I need to defend Aristotle's views? Seriously, read up on them and come back when you have finally educated yourself on the very, very basics of philosophy.
Telling others to 'read up' shows and proves that you are completely and utterly incapable of backing up and supporting "yourself" here.
And, the reason you cannot back up and support "yourself" here is because "yourself" rests on faulty and False foundational beliefs.
you, literally, have nothing to stand up on and back "yourself" up on but False beliefs and False claims here.
Which is why 'you' are, literally, crumbling and falling down all around "your" 'self', here.
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:56 pm
Now, there is no requirement that 'axioms', nor anything else, be proved True, or False. However, if and when they can, then they can. What you claim here are foundational axioms I can prove are irrefutably False.
That is truly nonsensical.
Once again, this one beliefs some thing is true when it has no actual proof for the belief.
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
Read up on foundationalism first. Read up on axiomatic systems. Do your homework!
Again, this one cannot prove its claim. All it can do is just tell the other to do 'their homework'. Which is proves you more and more stupid each time you say it.
Look "godelian" if you want to believe that believing in False beliefs/claims, and that using False beliefs/claims as the 'starting point' or 'foundation' for 'your system' and 'your further claims and beliefs' is the right thing to do, then, please, keep doing this.
What this will achieve, for me, will be and is perfect.
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:56 pm
So, you believe some things are true, even though they are, and can be, proved False, and to make this even more absurd you say and claim those False things are the starting point or foundation for your then other following on beliefs.
Proving is always done
from something,
from some foundational beliefs.
If this is what you want to 'now' believe is true, then by all means keep believing this, another, False belief.
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
Where is your
from?
'From' a previous irrefutable proof, or Fact.
Unlike you I do move on nor with False beliefs and False claims. To me, to do so is just Truly illogical and nonsensical.
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
You reject the very notion of foundation.
you just keep making up stories, and then believing your False made up claims.
I have never ever rejected the notion of 'foundation', itself. Unlike you, I just use an unmovable, unshakable, and unchangeable foundation.
you, however, base 'your whole system' the 'False foundation' that all systems are comprised upon nothing more than just 'unprovable axioms'.
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
You do not propose another foundation, to possibly build another system.
No one has ever asked me to.
And, once again I will point out that you have and hold another completely False belief here.
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
Again, you cannot build anything because you reject the very idea of having a starting point.
The more you speak and write here "godelian" the more you show and prove just how Truly illogical and nonsensical 'your system' is here. The more you speak and write here the more False, unshakable, beliefs of yours you show and expose here.
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
That is the reason why you have nothing to show for.
Again, if this is what you believe is true, then this must be true, right?
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:56 pm
Why do you even begin to assume these absolutely False things, let alone start believing them to be true?
Where is your alternative foundation? Where is your alternative system? You don't have one! You have nothing to show for!
Again, 'confirmation bias' in its most extreme here.
Also again, why do you even begin to assume and believe absolutely False things?
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:56 pm
Everytime you keep believing that I have no system, you keep missing it.
Really?
YES.
godelian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:10 pm
All you are doing, is criticizing other people's systems, but where is yours? You do not have one!
Again, if this is what you want to believe is true, then keep believing that it is absolutely true.
Also, if other people's systems, like yours, are based upon and rest upon False beliefs and claims, then I will keep 'criticizing' them by pointing them out and exposing them.