So, as I said.
To who?Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:19 amWell whatever "some" mean when they say that, it is not what is meant in this instance.Some say earth, itself, is 'a living thing', so as long as the earth has existed, then 'life' has also existed. Therefore, 'life' has always existed, in regards to this planet and/or 'on this planet'.
you maybe.
But, 'in this instance', it is what is meant.
And, once again, only through seeking out 'clarification' can 'what is meant' ever be Truly clarified, understood, and known. Until then, confusion can exist, which can lead to disagreements and/or bickering prevailing.
Neither of 'us' sought out clarification of 'what was meant', 'in this instance'. So, obviously, neither of us can claim to know 'what was meant', 'in this instance'.
But please do not forget that 'you' were responding to what 'I' said and wrote here.
So, now it could be asked, 'What is the point of you narrowing my perspective, when I was referring to something specific?'
Now, if 'I' was replying to what 'you' said and wrote, then it would be a very different situation.
Also, as 'we' can clearly see here this is a prime example of a big reason how and why there was so much confusion, misunderstanding, disagreements, 'arguing', bickering, fighting, and even warring and killing, 'back in the days when this was being written'.
Adults 'see' that the way they, personally, define each and every word is the way that others should be 'seeing' and 'defining' those same words.
So, once again, until full clarification is sought after, obtained, and gained, agreement and acceptance of what the words actually mean and/or are referring to, exactly, within conversations/discussions, and the goal of the conversation/discussion is done first, then peace and harmony will not come to exist.
Now, here is a prime example of when one speaks the actual and irrefutable Truth of things, then there is absolutely nothing to question, nor challenge.Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:19 amI am reasonably certain that no one knows.Age wrote:Oh, so you are 'trying to' speak for absolutely EVERY one.Harbal wrote:No one knows what it (consciousness) really is, or how it comes about.
So, how do you know what EVERY one knows or does not know, "harbal"?
Once again, I will suggest people come to an agreement and acceptance of what a word means or is referring to, exactly, before they begin 'looking to', 'studying', and/or 'discussing' things. If this is done, first, then finding out what the actual and irrefutable Truth of things is, exactly, can and does follow, and almost instantaneously I will add.
And, to prove this True, would absolutely anyone here like to have a 'discussion' about 'Consciousness', Itself, with the goal being to find out, and thus know what 'Consciousness' really is? And, maybe even discover, and thus also know, how 'Consciousness' also came about. But, 'this' I think will take a bit more work.
And, let 'us' remind the readers, now, that what may not be understood by 'you', yet, can already be understood by 'another'.Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:19 amI am not saying we will never understand consciousness; I am only saying that it is not understood now, in the days when etc, etc.Oh, and by the way, please do not forget that absolutely every thing that has come to be 'known', was once never 'known' by any one. Which, obviously, means that although you may well not, yet, 'know' what 'consciousness', itself, is others may well, already, 'know', or will become 'known' by others.
See, there is no rush to present, point out, or explain what has already come to be understood and known. Some things are best left till the right moment and best done in the right place.
Why should I have to keep 'fixing up' continually made up False assumptions and False claims.Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:19 amIf you think I have made false assumptions, why not just say what they are, rather than make a song and dance out of it?Age wrote:Just in this one little sentence you have made two very False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect assumptions.Harbal wrote:If you believe you do know, then you are badly mistaken.
But, you believe that 'this' could not even be 'possibly true', right?
Look, if you or anyone wants to believe the assumptions that you or they make up, and then claim them to be true, then, by all means, keep on doing so.
Why, supposedly, not?Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:19 amNo, this situation is not remotely like that.And, what you are trying to say and claim here, is like telling 'the one' who was trying to say and explain how it is the earth that revolves around the sun, 'If you believe you do know, then you are badly mistaken'. And, we know how well that turned out, right?