VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
Age wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:58 am
There has to be areas of no 'physical matter', between the smallest particles of matter would not be particles of matter but would just be one particle of matter.
And, if there was not a 'space' between and around matter, then matter could not move about.
Therefore, this proves that there is no material thing between and around the smallest material things.
The "one particle" would be the IFX
The dot (circled in red) represents the initial moment of the Big Bang (the universe we minds are within).
(Premise re kalam.) the universe began to exist.
Because something is called 'a premise', this in absolutely no way at all means that 'that thing' is true, right, accurate, nor correct all all, nor partially.
Can you and do you comprehend and understand this irrefutable Fact?
If yes, then we can move along.
But if no, then 'we' will wait for 'you', 'here'.
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
As the expansion occurs (due to the force of the Big Bang event) over time (measured within the effect) a bubble is formed in the IFX and the interaction causes that part of the IFX to transform into a number of different substances made up of various combinations, all of which can be reduced to the one particle (IFX) from where they originate.
Do you want to just keep repeating what you have said before, which, again, is only just what you have been thinking along the lines of?
Or, would you like me to ask you a series of clarifying and/or challenging questions to you here?
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
Now let me remove the boundary representing the section of the IFX being focused upon.
Okay I will let you do this.
But why would you even want to?
Why did you put 'a boundary' there in the first place?
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
Now one can imagine the bubble of the universe within an infinite field of IFX.
Are you aware that absolutely anyone can imagine just about absolutely anything?
If yes, then, to me, just imagining something, which does not align with what is actually possible and actually occurs is not very helpful at all here.
Oh, and by the way, are you even aware that a so-called 'infinite field of some particular thing' could not be of limited size?
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
The IFX is the "space" and the space is not "nothing" but rather "everything" and "things" which come from the IFX (such as the universe we minds are within) can be sourced or traced to the IFX.
The words, 'an infinite field of material x', until explained sensibly, to me, does not make any sense.
1. An 'infinite field' is just a field that goes on, forever.
2. An 'infinite field' of material x, does not say what x is, exactly.
3. An 'infinite field' of material x, means that there would not be absolutely anything else but just 'x', [whatever x is, exactly].
4. An 'infinite field' of material x, could not expand, nor contract. As, obviously, there is an 'infinite field' of one material thing only, which you call x here.
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
Now even if our universe eventually runs out of momentum and contracts, it will eventually return to its former IFX state.
1. The Universe, Itself, is not 'your', nor others.
2. The Universe returning to a former state has never been an issue. you, however, saying and claiming that there is some so-called 'infinite field of material x' is an issue. And, until you resolve this issue, then what you say and claim is just what you are 'currently' thinking along the lines of, only.
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
Or, if the momentum causes it to bubble and appear to disconnect from the IFX...
Why do you presume or believe that there is some sort of so-called 'bubble' anyway?
What could the 'bubble', itself, be made out of, how does one distinguish between it and the rest? Among other questions and issues that you will need to resolve if you want to come here saying and claiming what you are here.
Also, how could something within an 'infinite field' even 'appear' to disconnect from an 'infinite field', let alone actually be able to do this?
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
...again, once we remove the boundary, while that universe is apparently free floating as an individual "thing", it is still within the infinite space of IFX. (The IFX is infinite in every direction.)
How can something:
1. Be 'free floating' in an 'infinite field' of some thing 'material'?
2. How could any thing be an 'individual thing' in relation to an 'infinite field' of some thing else, or of the exact same thing?
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
I say, the word 'space' just means or refers to a distance between and surrounding physical matter.
I say, this does not, itself, necessarily mean that the 'space' is non-physical.
I see.
If we conflate two things to being the same thing, this can lead to confusion.
If you say so, but are you 'conflating' things here?
If yes, then what are they, exactly?
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
When we speak of "distance" we speak of a conceptual framework for measuring. If we were able to measure the distance between you and I, that distance would be represented by a number. The number itself is not physical. (It does not exist as a physical reality).
Neither does 'the space/distance', itself, exist as a 'physical thing'.
That is; you delve into and look deep enough at things here.
VVilliam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:31 am
However, we mustn't confuse distance with space. "Space" is
not "distance". Space is a real physical thing.
Really now?
If yes, then what does 'space', itself, look like, feel like, smell like, taste like, and/or sound like, exactly?
Tell 'us' here "vvilliam" what is 'space', exactly, to you?