Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 1:53 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
1. If the totality is without form then it is not a thing thus nothing.
BUT WHO WOULD EVER CLAIM that 'totality' is WITHOUT 'form'?
Has absolutely ANY one in this forum CLAIMED such a 'thing' as 'this'?
If yes, then WHO, EXACTLY?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
2. What does 'it' mean to you?
EXACTLY as I SAID BEFORE, that ALL DEPENDS on what the 'it' IS, EXACTLY.
you brought up the 'it' word WITHOUT CLARIFYING what 'it' was in reference TO, EXACTLY. So, that IS WHY I SAID what I did here BEFORE, and have AGAIN, now.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
3. Then there is only space and space contradicts itself when form occurs (form is a space between spaces thus space standing apart from itself).
'you' REALLY DO TWIST and DISTORT 'things' AROUND SO MUCH "eodnhoj7", and thus WHY you end up SAYING the MOST STUPID, ABSURD, SELF-CONTRADICTORY and RIDICULOUS 'things', like AGAIN just here now.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
4. Do you believe that is the right question to ask?
NO, NOT AT ALL.
As I CONTINUALLY INFORM 'you', people, here. I NEITHER BELIEVE NOR DISBELIEVE ANY 'thing' AT ALL, (except for the One 'thing', which is NOT in the question that you just asked here).
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
5. If all is one, and the one is correct, then misbehaving is part of the one and is correct.
If 'the one' is correct, or NOT correct, is, AGAIN, ANOTHER completely and utterly STUPID and NONSENSICAL remark and comment.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
This necessitates the one contradicts itself and is no longer the one as with contradiction anything goes therefore multiplicity occurs as well.
'This' does NOT necessitate what you say here AT ALL. What the 'this' word refers to IS JUST STUPID and NONSENSICAL to BEGIN WITH. Which, ACTUALLY necessitates TO just MORE ABSURDITY here. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED IRREFUTABLY True.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
6. If they are following out a path laid before them, i.e. what is taught,
But WHO CLAIMS there WAS SOME 'path laid before them'?
Did you REALLY READ the ACTUAL WORDS that I WROTE and SAID above here?
YOUR WORDS here SEEM TO PROVE you DID NOT.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
then they are not doing it on there own as the path guides them.
WHAT 'path' are you going on ABOUT here?
I NEVER mentioned ANY 'thing' ABOUT ANY 'path', and, I do NOT recall you ever mentioning the 'path' word prior EITHER.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
7. And yet both occur thus leaving us with contradiction.
you USE the 'contradiction' word in A WAY that I have NEVER come across with "ANOTHER" one of 'you' human beings.
How are 'you' DEFINING the 'contradiction' word here "eodnhoj7"?
To me there IS A Right and A Wrong, in Life, just like there IS A left (foot) and A right (foot), but 'these' do NOT leave me with absolutely ANY 'contradiction' AT ALL.
BUT BECAUSE you seem to be USING the word 'contradiction' in some OTHER way, we WILL WAIT to SEE what TRANSPIRES here now.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
8. If you are here to learn how to socialize with others then technically I am teaching you
1. I am NOT here to learn how to 'socialize'. I am here to LEARN how to communicate BETTER with 'you', human beings.
2. YES, VERY True 'you', "eodnhoj7", are TEACHING 'me' how to communicate BETTER with 'you', human beings. But NOT necessarily in THE WAY that you might think nor envision.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 pm
and "what can be EXPLAINED TO "another" in just three letters, could take a WHOLE lifetime of yours, and WITHOUT 'you' EVER becoming THE WISER."
Wow REALLY?
If yes, then what are those three letters, EXACTLY?
1. I am.
Okay. So, do 'you' HAVE ANY ACTUAL 'proof' backing up and supporting 'this CLAIM' of 'yours' here ?
If yes, then WILL 'you' PROVIDE 'it' here?
If no, then WHY NOT?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
Are you saying form can occur without comparison?
YES, and I WILL REPEAT, the ANSWER to your QUESTION here IS a RESOUNDING, YES.
The Universe, for example, is One form, WITHOUT comparison, OBVIOUSLY.
And 'this' HAS TO BE, and thus IS, BLATANTLY OBVIOUS BECAUSE the Universe HAS TO BE, and thus IS, INFINITE and ETERNAL. And THUS, by Its VERY Nature, HAS TO BE 'WITHOUT comparison'
Now that 'this' IS RESOLVED, can we MOVE ALONG HERE, NOW?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
2. You are not explaining what 'clarifying' means.
ABSOLUTELY NO one has EVER ASKED 'me' to explain what 'clarifying' means.
So, this is the VERY REASON WHY I am NOT explaining what 'clarifying' means.
Just like 'you' are NOT explaining what 'defining' means here, BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY NO one has ASKED 'you' to explain what 'defining' means here, right?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
3. So a form is not a space between spaces?
NOT by 'itself' and NOT necessarily so.
Any DESIGNATED 'space' between DESIGNATED 'spaces' may well be classed as, and thus DESIGNATED as, 'a form', that is; If ANY one WANTS to DO 'this'. But, to me, 'space' is just the distance between or around 'matter', itself. And, 'a form', to me, is just some 'thing', which has been DESIGNATED, by 'you', 'things', in 'human being' 'form', which ALL conceptually DESIGNATED 'forms' are made up of, and thus consist of, the two 'things' known as 'space' and 'matter', either combined together or separately.
Is 'this' ANY CLEARER, for 'you'?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
The circle is not the space between the inner and outer circle?
Okay. If 'this' what you want to SAY and BELIEVE, then do NOT let ANY one STOP 'you'.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
4. So does it matter if it is the right question to ask if you neither believe or disbelieve it (i.e. the question you asked)?
'That' or ANY QUESTION IS the 'right question' to ASK, FOR 'me', WHEN I want to LEARN some 'thing' NEW or MORE, or to OBTAIN CLARITY.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
5. So the one is neither correct nor not correct thus all that is a part of it is neither correct nor not correct, as all that is a part of the one is the one....so how can you claim I am wrong?
WHY did 'you' RESPOND WITH; 'So, the one is neither correct nor not correct thus ...' to what I ACTUALLY WROTE, which WAS; If 'the one' is correct, or NOT correct, is, AGAIN, ANOTHER completely and utterly STUPID and NONSENSICAL remark and comment.'?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
6. Prove to who...you?
To ABSOLUTELY ANY one who can SEE that 'your words' SEEM to PROVE that 'you' did NOT ACTUALLY READ the ACTUAL WORDS that I ACTUALLY WROTE and USED.
Which, by the way, 'you' SEEM to be DOING here ONCE AGAIN.
Did 'you' SEE the 'SEEM' word that I ACTUALLY WROTE, and USED, in capital letters by the way to make 'that word' even CLEARER and MORE EASILY SEEN, ALSO.
'SEEM to PROVE' is NOT the SAME as 'PROVE', if 'you' were NOT YET AWARE.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
Proof is relative.
Is there absolutely ANY 'thing' that is NOT 'relative'?
If yes, then what IS 'that', EXACTLY?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
The words you stated may be viewed as proof that you are not clear enough.
'Not clear enough', In regards to 'what', EXACTLY?
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
7. Contradiction is 'opposition' or 'a standing apart from'.
But the 'or' word here does NOT work PROPERLY nor Correctly.
The word 'contradiction' may well mean, or refer to, 'opposition' (in some form), and so because 'contradiction' is a form of 'opposition', then 'that', by itself, means, or refers to, 'standing apart from', However, the word 'contradiction' does NOT necessarily mean, nor refer to, 'a standing apart from', by itself. As 'a tree' 'stands apart from' 'an igloo', for example, but there is OBVIOUSLY NO 'contradiction' ANYWHERE 'here' NOR 'there'.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
Right and Wrong stand apart from each other otherwise there would be no distinction between the two.
YES, it would be rather FOOLISH and IDIOTIC if 'you', human beings, now started MAKING UP and USING the 'Right' and 'Wrong' words to MEAN, or REFER TO, the EXACT SAME 'thing/s'.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
In manifesting a duality you are manifesting a contradiction.
If I recall CORRECTLY, I have ALREADY ASKED 'you' to INFORM 'us' of what the 'contradiction' word MEANS, or REFERS TO, to 'you', EXACTLY?
Have 'you' DONE SO, ALREADY?
If no, then WILL 'you' now DO SO?
If no, then WHY NOT?
To 'me', and "others", when 'duality' IS being MANIFESTED, through CONCEIVING OF, and/or the CONCEPTIONS ABOUT 'duality', then there is NOT necessarily a CONCEPTUALLY CONCEIVED 'contradiction' being manifested, AS WELL, AT ALL.
Now, OF COURSE, 'you', "eodhnoj7", may well CREATE some sort of PERCEIVED 'contradiction' on EVERY occasion here. 'This' 'you' ARE COMPLETELY FREE TO DO. Or, 'you' may well have some particular DEFINITION of and for the word 'contradiction', which MAKES 'contradiction' MANIFEST EVERY time 'you' MANIFEST 'duality', CONCEPTUALLY. Which, AGAIN, for 'you' TO DO SO 'you' are completely FREE TO DO.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:07 pm
8. What do you mean by "EXACTLY"?
In a way, which is NOT 'INACCURATE' AT ALL. Which ALSO MEANS, in a way, which EVERY one could AGREE WITH and ACCEPT.