Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:13 am
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:03 am
Spinoza's point was that there is only one substance/energy/God out of which comes the many and thus all things are infinite in god/substance/energy.
Yes I agree, this is known as the character in the dream is known, conceptually known as and through the story of I within the artificial dream of separation. (subject and object duality )
THIS is simply known, as you are the knowing, the only knowing there is, without doubt or error, simply Self-evident.
"dontaskme" WHY can 'you' just NOT REFLECT on the words 'you' and 'I' and SEE how the way that 'you', the character here known as "dontaskme" is USING them in a COMPLETELY CONTRADICTORY WAY.
The word 'I' implies One. Whereas, the word 'you' implies "OTHER", of which there OBVIOUSLY is NOT with and in thee Oneness.
If 'you' just STOPPED listening to what 'you' have been TOLD and TAUGHT, and just REFLECTED on what these two words ACTUALLY MEAN and REFER TO, EXACTLY, then 'you' WILL SEE 'things' DIFFERENTLY.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:13 am
It doesn't even come out of itself, or returns to itself,
And this is BECAUSE 'It' IS thy 'Self'. ALWAYS, and in ALL WAYS.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:13 am
except as illusory appearance and disappearance and reappearance of the same one energy pretending to be the many.
Thee One, Itself, does NOT 'pretend' ANY 'thing' AT ALL.
What is 'pretending' are 'you' characters who are acting on this stage, some call 'life'.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:13 am
I agree with you popeye.
"dontaskme', "popeye", AND "lacewing" are in TOTAL AGREEMENT here. 'you' have ALL just learned words in Incorrect ways, and do NOT want to CHANGE. It is this STUBBORNNESS WHY 'you' can NOT SEE this IRREFUTABLE Truth, JUST YET anyway.