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If it must be interpreted (an ordinary meaning of the word isn't sufficient) either the ordinary meaning of the words really is insufficient, or it's not wisdom. If it must be explained, as in when they're are multiple different definitions or the explanation is how the pieces for together, it has the color of knowledge. The Truth can be explained from infinite perspectives but they never disagree. Wisdom is typically understood as the practical application of Truth.
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If

Advocate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:55 pm Wisdom is typically understood as the practical application of Truth.

Then:


Only if one can recognize the Truth can one recognize wisdom. If one can recognize the Truth, one can apply applicable Truth. If one can recognize and apply the Truth, one has wisdom. If one has wisdom, one can recognize wisdom. If one does not, one cannot.

I doubt that the population of the central quartiles of a bell-shaped curve has wisdom. This contributes to the dumming down of the majority of the population. Oy vey.
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>Only if one can recognize the Truth can one recognize wisdom. If one can recognize the Truth, one can apply applicable Truth. If one can recognize and apply the Truth, one has wisdom. If one has wisdom, one can recognize wisdom. If one does not, one cannot.

I've had a crack at meta-wisdom:

universal taxonomy - levels of wisdom

Typical wisdom is long-standing aphorisms about how to act in the world.

The fact that those aphorisms are long-standing means that they are universals, which in turn means they are mundane - the lowest common denominator of thought. They are only able to be passed down over generations by being as simplistic as possible while still producing positive results when applied rationally.

This scale is an approximation:

The fact that circumstances change mean that wisdom is a low-level understanding and half of wisdom is understanding when and how to apply it. Level 1 Wisdom, its typical understanding, is woefully incomplete.
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Since different aphorisms can be mutually exclusive and considered wise or not depending on the circumstance, there must be another, higher level of understanding that incorporates that difference. Level 2 Wisdom is to find a scale which incorporates a rule for how to choose between mutually exclusive wisdom.
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Level 3 - There is yet greater wisdom in integrating the idea that sometimes you want balance and sometimes you want to be "all in". There's no such thing as a balance of serenity - more is better.
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Level 4 wisdom is to understand that the way you must choose between different options is a matter of priority.
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Level 5 Wisdom is the result of having enough self-knowledge to effectively apply everything above.

Wisdom is of two kinds, practical and truth. Practical wisdom is about how to get by in society as it is - idealism v pragmatism. Truth wisdom is about explaining how things are and how they should be - science/philosophy.
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Advocate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:55 pm If it must be interpreted (an ordinary meaning of the word isn't sufficient) either the ordinary meaning of the words really is insufficient, or it's not wisdom.
why do you think the word is insufficient?

i don't.
Advocate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:55 pm it has the color of knowledge.
nope, Wisdom has nothing to do with Knowledge (outside of knowing yourself - which is what Wisdom is, and not the classical understanding of knowledge, which is education about "Stuff/the world"/etc).
Advocate wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:55 pm The Truth can be explained from infinite perspectives but they never disagree. Wisdom is typically understood as the practical application of Truth.
?? nonsequitor.
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Impenitent wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:33 am Image

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indeed.

thanks for the Wisdom.
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