Greatest I am wrote:ken wrote:[
What is the real "slavery problem" here exactly, that you say so many want to ignore? Could it be that you are just as much a slave to your own religions and governments as you say the "other" people are? When are you going to stop ignoring that fact?
You assume a lot.
Where is the lot of assuming?
I asked you three questions here. The first question is asking you directly what you are referring to - no assumption at all being made. The second question is just a truly open-ended question, no assumption at all being made here also. I am just asking if you have even considered that you could be a slave also, like the "others" are that you refer to. The last question could be taken as an assumption, but it is not really because this question is directly in relation to the previous one. The last question is just asking when are you going to stop ignoring that fact. That 'fact' could be in relation to
could you be just as much as a slave as "others" are, or, it that 'fact' could be in relation to you ignoring that fact.
You did not ask any clarifying questions back to Me, so really you are unsure what I was meaning.
Now, what are the actual assumption or assumption that you are assuming I am making?
I asked you when are you going to stop ignoring the fact that you, yourself,
could also be a slave to religions and governments? If you have actually stopped, thought about the question openly and honestly, and then came to the resounding conclusion that you, yourself, are NOT a slave to religions and governments, then that this fine. If this is your response, then just show how you, yourself, are not a slave also?
I suggest you are a slave like muslim women are, and like all human beings are. Muslim women are not allowed out in public without certain clothing just like you are not allowed out in public without certain clothing. You are forced to cover some parts of the body, and if you do not, then you can be punished and ridiculed, which is the exact same thing that could happen to muslim women if they also do not cover up.
Greatest I am wrote:The real slavery problem is quite apparent.
Muslim men can and do buy children for wives.
Well if this is the real issue and slavery problem that you want us to be aware of, why then is this the first time you have mentioned this "quite apparent" problem? Why have you been going on about muslim women wearing particular clothing, and NOT discussing this issue?
Greatest I am wrote:My situation is irrelevant to that fact except for the duty it imposes on me to end the practice.
Regards
DL
The situation if you see yourself a slave or not is very relevant. The situation that you are also a part of the problem of creating future slaves is also relevant. If you can see how you yourself are also a slave or not influences how well you will be at preventing future slaves. But let Me guess, you do not want to look at anything you do wrong. You want all the focus to be on "others", am I right? You only want to look at and discuss the wrong "others" do, and not what you, yourself, do, right?
If you truly want to fix the 'problem', then find out WHY the "problem" occurs. Find out WHY you do wrong, and right, first, then you will know how and why all human beings do wrong, and right, also. You can only prevent some thing from happening again once you know what caused it, or WHY it happened, in the first place. The reason the "real slavery problem" occurs is the same reason all human beings are a slave to religions and governments. Human beings are taught, mostly through fear and punishment, to think and believe, in certain ways and in certain things. Just like you do.
You are no better, nor worse, than another. You just do different wrong and right.
If you looked at the wrong you, yourself, do first, and discovered WHY you do that, then you will find out WHY all human beings do what they do, and then you can and will be able to end once and for all those truly wrong practices that ALL human beings do, which will inevitably truly help the "others" that you so obviously would like to help. Preventing, and thus stopping, ALL the wrong that ALL human beings do I think would be much better than just trying to stop the wrong "others" do.
By the way not only muslim men buy children for wives.