All the world's problem related to humans in the past, at present, will be in the future, are all reducible to the human biological firmware.godelian wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 4:52 amYes, but atheism did not exist as a mass movement before the French Revolution. It is the Catholic Church that created this challenge. The Catholic Church were so obnoxious that a frontal attack on their teachings was indeed necessary. The privileges of the noble class had to be abolished in France and in Europe. There was no way around that.
Of course, there were. However, they did not have to overcome the seemingly insurmountable obstacle of the Catholic Church.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 4:11 am I believe there were already non-theists [atheist] long before 500BCE i.e. >2500 years ago.
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#History
If you look around in the world and in its history, every practice that is universal, is simply part of our biological firmware, i.e. what Kant would call our innate intuition. Religion is universal. Marriage is universal. Clothing is universal. Cooking is universal. And so on. Therefore, believing that there is no God is contrary to our human nature. Our biological firmware is flexible enough to allow it, but it also allows for things like mismatching gender and sex. Our biological firmware is overly flexible. That is both a strength and a weakness.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 4:11 am Your understanding of why other people do not believe in God is wrong.
A belief in God [theism] is a psychological issue as described above, and non-theism [atheism] is an indifference to theism due to various reasons, i.e. based on a rational, intuitive belief there is no God or just couldn't care less about theism.
Thus my point is humanity must focus on what is and the mechanisms of the biological firmware.
Are you familiar with the Human Connectome Project and the Human Genome Project.
see: https://www.humanconnectome.org/
You are very ignorant of your own self and own human nature but rather focus on religious beliefs which are not true of reality and human nature.
Whether it is the 'ruling mafia' or religions they have their pros and cons relative to time and conditions only but not for the future.If religion does not hijack morality then the ruling mafia will. There is no Catholic Church anymore to oppress the lower classes or to favor the interests of nobility. Therefore, being against religion is no longer a tool against oppression. On the contrary, the ruling mafia does not like Islam. That is why Islam is a fantastic tool to neutralize oppression by the ruling mafia.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 4:11 am Because humanity is in its very early stages of moral evolution, morality was hijacked by religion which is net positive and optimal based on existing psychological constraints.
All respect is ultimately based on the fear for reprisals.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 4:11 am Your God laid down the most evil commands for believer to commit.
All respect is ultimately based on the fear for reprisals.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 4:11 am Your religion sanction killing of non-believers upon the slightest threats [fasadin]. This is so evident, e.g. killing of non-believers even the drawings of cartoon as commanded by God in the main holy texts.
You see, the ruling mafia wants to intervene between husband and wife and also between parents and children. I want to neutralize that, because I do not want that. The ruling mafia have to stay out of my private life. So, the solution is to galvanize and weaponize two billion believers against the ruling mafia. Islam is as much a tool as a goal. The ruling mafia must learn to show respect. Repurposing Islam to inflict respect-instilling reprisals against the ruling mafia, is the perfect tool to that effect. The ruling mafia will learn, or else, they will be made to learn. The choice is theirs.
What is worst with your religion is its holy texts are immutable with no compromise in interpretations to the current and future conditions.
Whatever the 'ruling mafia' they are not constituted upon any immutable doctrines and dogmas, thus can be changed and rejected [abandoned] toward the better for the future.
I stated earlier
- In terms of rating of religion in terms of its moral competence, I would rate as the mainstream as follow;
1. Buddhism
2. Christianity
3. Others
4. Islam [evil laden] based on its doctrine is the worst.
What I have advocated is a generic morality-proper [inherent in all humans] independent of all religions and all mafia-ruling organizations and beliefs.
Morality-proper is absolutely good [no evil] for humanity.
I have raised >300 threads in the 'Ethical Theory' section in this forum to support my point re morality-proper.