see:godelian wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:06 amMathematics has numerous downstream users but facilitating their work is not the goal of mathematics. It is merely a side effect of doing it right.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:15 am [Logic and mathematics are merely useful tool to facilitate science and other fields of knowledge.
The goal of mathematics is to discover the structure and truth of preexisting abstract Platonic worlds.
Mathematicians would never say thatVeritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:15 am The final conclusion is whatever is based on mathematics and logic, e.g. as in Godel's case, it cannot represent what is real, thus illusory, imaginary and fictitious.
Scientists would never say this either.
The only people who say this kind of things are neither mathematicians not scientists but atheists trying to invent fake proof by using their very poor understanding -- ignorance really -- of both mathematics and science.
Philosophy overrides Science and Mathematics
see: viewtopic.php?p=707220#p707220
Kant is using philosophy to show Godel's argument while valid within the mathematic system, it is not sound in terms of reality.