Science is a collection of stubborn observable patterns for which it is currently hard to find counterexamples.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:36 am the gold standard of 'what is real' is contingent upon the scientific framework and system [FS].
That collection is not a system. It has no pretense of systemic consistency. You somehow believe that this collection is the Theory of Everything. It is absolutely not:
What you are saying, is the hallmark of scientism, and is very misguided. Anybody who understands science, knows that your view is wrong.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything
A theory of everything (TOE), final theory, ultimate theory, unified field theory or master theory is a hypothetical, singular, all-encompassing, coherent theoretical framework of physics that fully explains and links together all aspects of the universe.[1]: 6 Finding a theory of everything is one of the major unsolved problems in physics.[2][3]
By attributing magical powers to science, the only thing that you achieve, is to reveal that you do not understand science. No scientist worth his salt would ever do that. Your views are based solely on ignorance.
You are making again the same mistake. Science does not test in the hope of verifying. It tests with the hope of finding a counterexample that will falsify the stubborn pattern.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:36 am Whatever is 'physical' can be verified and justified with the science-physics-FS is real.
From what you write, it becomes obvious that you do not even understand what scientists do.
Mathematics is the benchmark for truth, if only, because it proposes the only consistent theory of truth.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:36 am Whatever is proven via the mathematical FS cannot be real per se like as with 'what is real' from the science FS.
How exactly are you going to experimentally test the physical reality of a video game on your phone? So, the monsters on your screen are physically real, just because you can see them?Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:36 am What I see on my computer screen is real and is physical as can be confirmed by the science-physics FS.
So, it is not "illusory, imaginary, false, fictitious" in the scientific sense.