There are Two Senses of Truth

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Veritas Aequitas
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There are Two Senses of Truth

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There are two senses of truth. i.e.
  • 1. The philosophical realism mind-independent sense of truth - grounded on an illusion.
    2. The human-based FSR-FSC-ed sense of truth is realistic e.g. [scientific-FSRC - the Standard]
Truth or verity is the property of being in accord with fact or reality.[1]
In everyday language, truth is typically ascribed to things that aim to represent reality or otherwise correspond to it, such as beliefs, propositions, and declarative sentences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth
The concept of truth is discussed and debated in various contexts, including philosophy, art, theology, law, and science.
Most human activities depend upon the concept, where its nature as a concept is assumed rather than being a subject of discussion, including journalism and everyday life.
ibid
"Various Contexts" imply specific Framework and System of Truth within philosophy, art, theology, law, and science, etc. in two major themes, i.e.
1. Philosophical Realism vs
2. human-based FSRC. [Framework and System of Realization of Reality and Cognition {knowledge}]



1. The philosophical realism mind-independent sense of truth
This truth is based on the Correspondence theory of truth.
Correspondence theories emphasize that true beliefs and true statements correspond to the actual state of affairs.[12]
This type of theory stresses a relationship between thoughts or statements on one hand, and things or objects on the other.
Correspondence theory centres heavily around the assumption that truth is a matter of accurately copying what is known as "objective reality" and then representing it in thoughts, words, and other symbols. ibid
Most commonly, truth is viewed as the correspondence of language or thought to a mind-independent world. This is called the correspondence theory of truth. ibid
Mind-independent world imply Philosophical or Metaphysical Realism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_realism
"Philosophical Realism can also be a view about the properties of reality in general, holding that reality exists independent of the mind, as opposed to non-realist views."
Philosophical realism is a very dogmatic ideology [ism] which was invented from an evolutionary default of a sense of external-ness existence of things outside to facilitate basic survival for all organism since 3.5 billion years ago.

The reality of Philosophical Realism claimed by p-realists is merely an ASSUMED reality for it was never intended to be realistic in the first place, but emerged as an idea of external-ness to facilitate basic survival.

The problem is all philosophical discussions arise when p-realists insist their mind-independent reality is the really-real reality when they are ignorant their sense of reality is merely an assumption, thus as reified by p-realists is an illusion.

Thus;
The philosophical realism mind-independent sense of truth is grounded on an illusion.



2. The human-based FSR-FSC-ed sense of truth [scientific-FSC - the Standard]
The FSRC sense of truth is based on the coherence theory of truth;
For coherence theories in general, truth requires a proper fit of elements within a whole system.
Very often, however, coherence is taken to imply something more than simple logical consistency; often there is a demand that the propositions in a coherent system lend mutual inferential support to each other.
So, for example, the completeness and comprehensiveness of the underlying set of concepts is a critical factor in judging the validity and usefulness of a coherent system.[21] A pervasive tenet of coherence theories is the idea that truth is primarily a property of whole systems of propositions, and can be ascribed to individual propositions only according to their coherence with the whole
ibid
The above is equivalent to my FSRC sense of truth;

What is real, facts, truths, knowledge and objectivity are conditioned upon a specific human based Framework and System of Reality [FSR] and Knowledge [FSC].
The most credible, reliable and objective at present is the human and empirically-based Scientific-FSRC as the standard at 100.
The lesser credible and objective FSKs are, e.g. the theistic FSRC based on faith is merely 0.001 of the standard.

Reality is all-there-is, 'all' includes all person[s] in existence.
What is real is Empirical Realism [Kantian aka Transcendental Idealism] which is in contrast to Philosophical Realism.
As such what is real must be empirically verifiable and justifiable plus supported by the finest philosophical reasonings.

What is most realistic is the human-based FSRC-ed sense of truth [scientific-FSC - the Standard][/b] which is grounded on 13.5 billion years of forces since the BB.
What is most realistic is that which emerged and is realized within those embedded conditions within human nature before such realization is perceived, known and described.

Whatever is truth must be qualified and conditioned upon an embodied human-based FSRC.
There is no absolutely mind-independent external reality out there to be corresponded [via beliefs, language, etc.] with to establish mind independent objective truths.

.............
My advice to philosophical realists,
your current sense of truth is grounded on an illusion;
think and reflect deeper when you insist your sense of truth and note there are other counter claims of what is more truthful, i.e. the human-based FSRC-ed truth of which the science-FSRC is the most truthful and objective.

The above is a complex issue so a lot of nuances need to be considered in further discussion in this thread.

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