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Are there perfect forms in an eternal radiance?
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pm
by risaperis
Our world, often, seems dark, shadowy, and fraught with chaos, despair, senseless death, and immeasurable suffering. Is there a place of Truth, perfected form, and eternal radiance in this universe, or another? Can humans reach the place of Truth and, if so, are we still human if we arrive at it?
Plato's Allegory of the Cave is a philosophical concept presented by the ancient Greek philosopher Plato in his work "The Republic." In the allegory, Plato describes a group of people who have lived chained to the wall of a cave, facing a blank wall. They perceive only the shadows cast by objects passing in front of a fire behind them, and they mistake these shadows for reality. The allegory is often interpreted as a metaphor for the process of enlightenment and the journey from ignorance to knowledge. While it is not a literal truth, it serves as a powerful allegory for understanding the nature of reality and the human experience.
Early Catholic theology grew from ancient Greek philosophy. Plato is suggesting a kind of heaven, in the Christian sense. If we can arrive at Truth does that prove there is a God or some intelligent designer?
Re: Are there perfect forms in an eternal radiance?
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:48 pm
by phyllo
No
Re: Are there perfect forms in an eternal radiance?
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:35 pm
by Harbal
risaperis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pm
Our world, often, seems dark, shadowy, and fraught with chaos, despair, senseless death, and immeasurable suffering. Is there a place of Truth, perfected form, and eternal radiance in this universe, or another? Can humans reach the place of Truth and, if so, are we still human if we arrive at it?
Plato's Allegory of the Cave is a philosophical concept presented by the ancient Greek philosopher Plato in his work "The Republic." In the allegory, Plato describes a group of people who have lived chained to the wall of a cave, facing a blank wall. They perceive only the shadows cast by objects passing in front of a fire behind them, and they mistake these shadows for reality. The allegory is often interpreted as a metaphor for the process of enlightenment and the journey from ignorance to knowledge. While it is not a literal truth, it serves as a powerful allegory for understanding the nature of reality and the human experience.
Early Catholic theology grew from ancient Greek philosophy. Plato is suggesting a kind of heaven, in the Christian sense. If we can arrive at Truth does that prove there is a God or some intelligent designer?
This is all just thought, and an illustration of how it tends to go off in all sorts of directions.
Re: Are there perfect forms in an eternal radiance?
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:07 pm
by Will Bouwman
risaperis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pmPlato's Allegory of the Cave is a philosophical concept presented by the ancient Greek philosopher Plato in his work "The Republic." ...
...Plato is suggesting a kind of heaven, in the Christian sense. If we can arrive at Truth does that prove there is a God or some intelligent designer?
If you can make it to the end of the Republic, you will find that Plato created the template for heaven and hell in the Myth of Er.
https://eurosis.org/cms/files/projects/ ... lic_HB.pdf
Re: Are there perfect forms in an eternal radiance?
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:09 pm
by Iwannaplato
Are there perfect forms in an eternal radiance?
My wife.
Re: Are there perfect forms in an eternal radiance?
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:25 pm
by Age
risaperis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pm
Our world, often, seems dark, shadowy, and fraught with chaos, despair, senseless death, and immeasurable suffering.
When 'you' say and write 'our world', who and what are you referring to, exactly?
risaperis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pm
Is there a place of Truth, perfected form, and eternal radiance in this universe, or another?
Yes, and there is only this one and only infinite and eternal Universe.
risaperis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pm
Can humans reach the place of Truth and, if so, are we still human if we arrive at it?
Once 'the place of Truth' is reached and arrived at, the human visible body part remains but the human invisible being part has evolved out being a 'human being' and has moved up and onto the next level or the next stage of evolution, itself.
risaperis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pm
Plato's Allegory of the Cave is a philosophical concept presented by the ancient Greek philosopher Plato in his work "The Republic." In the allegory, Plato describes a group of people who have lived chained to the wall of a cave, facing a blank wall. They perceive only the shadows cast by objects passing in front of a fire behind them, and they mistake these shadows for reality. The allegory is often interpreted as a metaphor for the process of enlightenment and the journey from ignorance to knowledge.
The Universe, 'Itself', coming to know "Its" or 'thySelf'.
risaperis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pm
While it is not a literal truth, it serves as a powerful allegory for understanding the nature of reality and the human experience.
Human beings are just one step up and along the evolutionary ladder of Life, Itself.
risaperis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pm
Early Catholic theology grew from ancient Greek philosophy. Plato is suggesting a kind of heaven, in the Christian sense.
In the human part of the evolutionary ladder, there are also nine steps to heaven/utopia/peace. With each step being a new revelation and bringing help or guidance of how to make the step up the stairway to heaven, and peace for all.
risaperis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:40 pm
If we can arrive at Truth does that prove there is a God or some intelligent designer?
you can, and will, arrive at Truth also. As for what is shown, revealed, and proved True here one will just have to wait, to 'see'.
Or, one can just do what is needed in order to learn HOW to arrive at the irrefutable Truth of things.