Inner-Rebellion: Cause of Free-Will

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Skepdick
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Re: Inner-Rebellion: Cause of Free-Will

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Wizard22 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:40 am Thanks for saving me an argument, Skepdick... niiice. 8)
It's hardly an argument. It's the tradition of humans throughout history to perpetually change their traditions...

So I guess if we were to do something different we'd have to stop changing our traditions.
And that would amount to a change in the tradition of changing our traditions... 🤷‍♂️

Philosophy is circular 🥱
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Re: Inner-Rebellion: Cause of Free-Will

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Skepdick wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:22 am To dispose of the practices of the society you grew up in and adopt in their place those of a past version of your society is conservative.
No it isn't
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:29 pm
Skepdick wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:22 am To dispose of the practices of the society you grew up in and adopt in their place those of a past version of your society is conservative.
No it isn't
Contradiction :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:33 pm The central thesis of Conservatism - as I always understood it anyway - has been that our traditions and customs are not to be discarded without a care as though they never brought any value. Rather customs and traditions represent the distilled wisdom of the ages and ought to be treated with a modicum of respect and subjected only to well thought out reasonably paced reform.
Have you no modicum of charity? Would it not be reasonable to think that your friends in the other thread want to go back to the 1950s precisely because they think the traditions of the past were discarded without a care and were not subjected to reasonably paced reform.

Ceteris paribus: conservativism is "we went to fast - lets go back". Centrism is "we went at exactly the right speed" and progressivism is '"we didn't go fast enough".
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Re: Inner-Rebellion: Cause of Free-Will

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Wizard22 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:41 pm Okay I'm done now...probably add more later. Have fun!
Interesting. Formal, non-intellectual, seated meditation breaks the continuity of the inner dialogue. Once the continuity is broken, stepping back into the stream of thought reveals the arbitrary nature of the old continuity. One steps into a new continuity, one less influenced by doubt and the mental machinations of inner dialogue formerly known as choice. In fact, action rather than old notions of choice becomes the new definer of "decision." This highlights the personal distinction between preference and equanimity, and what gets used as the measure of significance in the ordering of perceptions. One way of looking at The Singularity is, no interval between thought and action on a personal level, although the term refers to the grand scale of everything.
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Walker wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:10 pm
Wizard22 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:41 pm Okay I'm done now...probably add more later. Have fun!
Interesting. Formal, non-intellectual, seated meditation breaks the continuity of the inner dialogue. Once the continuity is broken, stepping back into the stream of thought reveals the arbitrary nature of the old continuity. One steps into a new continuity, one less influenced by doubt and the mental machinations of inner dialogue formerly known as choice. In fact, action rather than old notions of choice becomes the new definer of "decision." This highlights the personal distinction between preference and equanimity, and what gets used as the measure of significance in the ordering of perceptions. One way of looking at The Singularity is, no interval between thought and action on a personal level, although the term refers to the grand scale of everything.
Well said, that's a significant interpretation.
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