How is the Karma enforced?

[bahman]

I was wondering how Karma is enforced in Buddhism. Is there a deity who is in charge of the calculation of Karma?

[Harbal]

I was wondering how Karma is enforced in Buddhism. Is there a deity who is in charge of the calculation of Karma?

This is all I could find on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJI6soiQhI

[bahman]

I was wondering how Karma is enforced in Buddhism. Is there a deity who is in charge of the calculation of Karma?

This is all I could find on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJI6soiQhI

Nice music!

[Iwannaplato]

I was wondering how Karma is enforced in Buddhism. Is there a deity who is in charge of the calculation of Karma?

It's better to think of it as, if you do X and have the attitude (hardness) that goes along with this you will attract, metaphorically as if you have an electric charge, something that will cause you to spark and lose that charge. There are theist Buddhists, but you don't need a deity to be a Buddhist (and sometimes, for some the Buddha can function as a kind of deity, but this isn't necessary in Buddhism either). You could think of Karma as a kind of nuanced gravity or magnetic field. It draws its own dissolution. I don't really like the Buddhist conception of Karma (nor the Hindu versions I've encountered) but that's my take on it. Theres no one meting out justice.

The winners write history and all that: so certain types and classes have justified their positions and abilities and universalized a model based on their own strengths (and weaknesses). Meditation doesn't cure all the avoidance of cognitive dissonance.

[Walker]

I was wondering how Karma is enforced in Buddhism. Is there a deity who is in charge of the calculation of Karma?

You mean the Karma Cop and the Karma Accountant?

- For honest calculations, we know that two should be in charge of income and expenditures, one for each. This SOP discourages cooking the books.
- Is two also necessary for the policing and accounting of karma, or anything else?

[Impenitent]

the Karma is enforced by Boy George

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

-Imp

[promethean75]

It's another variation of the teleological thought-police like religion, and it falls apart when u examine it.

Consider this. If i steal Joe's wallet, am i accruing bad karma? Well wait a minute. Joe musta done somethin bad himself if he got his wallet stolen, right? He's got bad karma, so his wallet gets stolen. So me stealing his wallet is actually an act of enforcing the karmic balance then? See whuddum sayin?

It duddint make any sense. How can the great karma-keepers indict me for doing something bad when what i did (steal Joe's wallet) was an act of karmic justice against joe?

[bahman]

I was wondering how Karma is enforced in Buddhism. Is there a deity who is in charge of the calculation of Karma?

It's better to think of it as, if you do X and have the attitude (hardness) that goes along with this you will attract, metaphorically as if you have an electric charge, something that will cause you to spark and lose that charge. There are theist Buddhists, but you don't need a deity to be a Buddhist (and sometimes, for some the Buddha can function as a kind of deity, but this isn't necessary in Buddhism either). You could think of Karma as a kind of nuanced gravity or magnetic field. It draws its own dissolution. I don't really like the Buddhist conception of Karma (nor the Hindu versions I've encountered) but that's my take on it. Theres no one meting out justice.

I think that if Karma is true then there must be at least a person in charge of it.

The winners write history and all that: so certain types and classes have justified their positions and abilities and universalized a model based on their own strengths (and weaknesses). Meditation doesn't cure all the avoidance of cognitive dissonance.

I agree.

[bahman]

I was wondering how Karma is enforced in Buddhism. Is there a deity who is in charge of the calculation of Karma?

You mean the Karma Cop and the Karma Accountant?

Both. Both can be one person though.

- For honest calculations, we know that two should be in charge of income and expenditures, one for each. This SOP discourages cooking the books.
- Is two also necessary for the policing and accounting of karma, or anything else?

No really. Just that.

[bahman]

It's another variation of the teleological thought-police like religion, and it falls apart when u examine it.

Consider this. If i steal Joe's wallet, am i accruing bad karma? Well wait a minute. Joe musta done somethin bad himself if he got his wallet stolen, right? He's got bad karma, so his wallet gets stolen. So me stealing his wallet is actually an act of enforcing the karmic balance then? See whuddum sayin?

It duddint make any sense. How can the great karma-keepers indict me for doing something bad when what i did (steal Joe's wallet) was an act of karmic justice against joe?

Ahan, so you are Karma Cop!?

[Iwannaplato]

I think that if Karma is true then there must be at least a person in charge of it.

Well, you've got the makings of your own ontology/causality, but it'll be different from Buddhism.

[bahman]

I think that if Karma is true then there must be at least a person in charge of it.

Well, you've got the makings of your own ontology/causality, but it'll be different from Buddhism.

Correct, but Karma looks like magic in the absence of a person who takes care of it.

[Sculptor]

I was wondering how Karma is enforced in Buddhism. Is there a deity who is in charge of the calculation of Karma?

The whole idea is an invention to make people take responsibility for their actions and as an explanation of who people are born unequally- either economically, physically or mentally. As if some sort of cosmic justice would explain why some are cursed with disabilities.

I'm nor sure if the Buddhists have a rationale about hwo or what is the cosmic accountant, or by what means such an account is kept.

[Walker]

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Here's a parallel reference to karma enforcement:
viewtopic.php?p=693591#p693591

[bahman]

I was wondering how Karma is enforced in Buddhism. Is there a deity who is in charge of the calculation of Karma?

The whole idea is an invention to make people take responsibility for their actions and as an explanation of who people are born unequally- either economically, physically or mentally. As if some sort of cosmic justice would explain why some are cursed with disabilities.

Maybe the cosmic justice is right. How could you disprove it?

I'm nor sure if the Buddhists have a rationale about hwo or what is the cosmic accountant, or by what means such an account is kept.

I agree.