War

[Walker]

dup

[Walker]

You're quite generous with OP money and resources. Sanctuary cities are already squealing for the nation to pay for the generosity of their cheap-talk pandering for virtue.

[Gary Childress]

You're quite generous with OP money and resources. Sanctuary cities are already squealing for the nation to pay for the generosity of their cheap-talk pandering for virtue.

Winning people over with generosity is better than turning them into belligerent enemies. I mean, we wouldn't be pressed into a corner like this (in terms of world politics) had G. W. Bush not invaded the Middle East and had Trump not been anti-Chinese and got China riled against us. You Republicans are going to be the death of us all. Or to put it bluntly, if the US falls, the lion's share of responsibility will probably be on those who voted for Bush and Trump.

[Walker]

Winning people over with generosity is better than turning them into belligerent enemies. I mean, we wouldn't be pressed into a corner like this (in terms of world politics) had G. W. Bush not invaded the Middle East and had Trump not been anti-Chinese and got China riled against us. You Republicans are going to be the death of us all. Or to put it bluntly, if the US falls, the lion's share of responsibility will probably be on those who voted for Bush and Trump.

Speaking of generosity, how about that Biden. He was recently caught on camera giving a speech and bragging about how he worked around the recent Supreme Court Decision forbidding the executive branch from forgiving student loans.

I saw it on a news clip. Joe gets it done. He was bragging about how he was able to skirt the law, and forgive loans to people who will as a group be higher earners and thus able to work a loan payoff into their budgets. Now that's on everyone's shoulders, those who worked hard to pay off their loans, and chose careers that would pay their loans, are the suckers, along with the workers who didn't go to college. I saw one number of about $140 billion. I think this might be the second payoff for votes under the same laundering scheme. You can probably fact check it all for facts, not spin.

Anyway, that's typical Biden.

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- As long as you’re picking a point in history in order to find the present …

- The turning point for the ME that has caused all the trouble and strife was a conversion of world dependence away from whale oil and animal fat, to petroleum.

- Blame Henry Ford who wasn’t the inventor, but who capitalized on the Internal Combustion physics. On the other hand, why not just blame God.

- That turning point turned a bunch of tribal desert hillbillies into Beverly Hillbillies, literally, because the beauty of oil in that region is that it’s easy to get to, like Uncle Jed shooting his Kentucky long rifle into the sand and seeing black gold bubble out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ1TgMXqZ6Y

[Dubious]

You're quite generous with OP money and resources. Sanctuary cities are already squealing for the nation to pay for the generosity of their cheap-talk pandering for virtue.

Is Trumpus Turdicus (more commonly known as Putin's Poodle) ever going to say anything that barely crosses the line into something remotely intelligent? Are the Trump turds ever going to get an upgrade from idiot to moron? Has the Republican Party become the traitor party of America?

[commonsense]

“And it will be Biden’s fault,” of course.

[commonsense]

You're quite generous with OP money and resources. Sanctuary cities are already squealing for the nation to pay for the generosity of their cheap-talk pandering for virtue.

Is Trumpus Turdicus (more commonly known as Putin's Poodle) ever going to say anything that barely crosses the line into something remotely intelligent? Are the Trump turds ever going to get an upgrade from idiot to moron?

No, because Trump’s muttersnces appeal to undereducated lizard brains.

[godelian]

don't attack nations that can decimate you

and don't bitch about it when they return the favor 500 fold

-Imp

There are lots of countries eager to join the fight on the side of Hamas, such as for example, Turkey, and to engage the Waffe IDF in battle.

The main obstacle at the moment are the American carrier groups in the eastern Mediterranean that prevent a naval landing operation on the coast of Gaza.

One thing that other Hamas-allied countries are waiting for, is that the Houthis test their anti-ship missiles in the Red Sea, and at some point succeed in destroying the American carrier groups operating there. That testing process will create the blueprint for attacking and destroying the American carrier groups in the Eastern Mediterranean, which will in turn free up the Gaza coast for future landing operations.

This is also the reason why Hezbollah does not proceed to an all out attack in the north of occupied Palestine. They limit themselves to just destroying military facilities of the occupation. In the meanwhile, however, Hezbollah probably now already have enough knowledge and experience to overwhelm and neutralize the Iron Dome system.

In military terms, the occupation currently find themselves surrounded by adversaries who are carefully probing and testing their defenses.

When a general advance will finally be authorized -- almost surely by Iran -- you will see that both Egypt and Jordan will change their position on the war, and will proceed to engaging the occupation in battle from their side of the border.

This war did not start just yesterday, and it will take a lot more time to reach its inevitable conclusion.

[Impenitent]

what you say is true... the peace loving Arab countries are just itching to invade Israel...

once they sink a US ship, they may feel emboldened

comrade biden will not be in charge of the US military for long

I don't think biden's replacement will surrender position and armaments as he did...

but it really isn't America's war... when the invasion happens, Bibi launches his missiles and Mecca glows in the dark with the rest of the middle east...

if Israel really wanted to fight, they'd cover some of their ammunition with pig blood

never again

-Imp

[godelian]

what you say is true... the peace loving Arab countries are just itching to invade Israel...
once they sink a US ship, they may feel emboldened

Both China and the Russian Federation have a vested interest in seeing to it that this becomes reality.

You can safely assume that Iran and Yemen are now crowded with Russian and Chinese military engineers figuring out how to improve the Houthi naval missile technology in such a way that they can successfully defeat the defenses of American aircraft carriers.

Putin is working overtime on this.
Xi Jinping is working overtime on this.

It guarantees that if the Houthis can sink American aircraft carriers that Russia and China can do that too.
Where else would they ever get the opportunity to carry out these tests?
For Russia and China, it is now or never!

[Impenitent]

what you say is true... the peace loving Arab countries are just itching to invade Israel...
once they sink a US ship, they may feel emboldened

Both China and the Russian Federation have a vested interest in seeing to it that this becomes reality.

You can safely assume that Iran and Yemen are now crowded with Russian and Chinese military engineers figuring out how to improve the Houthi naval missile technology in such a way that they can successfully defeat the defenses of American aircraft carriers.

Putin is working overtime on this.
Xi Jinping is working overtime on this.

It guarantees that if the Houthis can sink American aircraft carriers that Russia and China can do that too.
Where else would they ever get the opportunity to carry out these tests?
For Russia and China, it is now or never!

Russia and China have missiles that can do that now... thing is, so do we...

the last major war was fought by millions of soldiers

the next will be fought through missiles, chemicals, radiation and starvation (and billions of civilians)

-Imp

[godelian]

Russia and China have missiles that can do that now... thing is, so do we...

They do not want a direct confrontation with the US. They are using the Houthis instead. The US also does not want a direct confrontation with the Russian Federation. They are using Ukraine for this.

the next will be fought through missiles, chemicals, radiation and starvation (and billions of civilians)

I think it will be limited to rather hundreds of millions of casualties. Furthermore, I do not see a future for chemical warfare. There is no tangible advantage in using it. On the other hand, it is possible that tactical nuclear weapons get used at some point, but all sides try to avoid that.

Hamas has reignited the hostilities in order to prod its allies to actively do something instead of signing treaties with the occupation of Palestine. This approach is slowly but gradually working, as popular pressure keeps mounting in the Middle East to join the war in Gaza. So, either the local regime delivers on joining the war, or they may sooner or later get replaced by a new regime that does.

For the people in Gaza, a ceasefire would certainly be welcome, but geopolitically, a truce would hamper new military operations against the occupation of Palestine. For example, Russia is still busy deploying anti-aircraft air-defense missiles in Syria, and training Hezbollah in their use, in order to target and shoot down IDF fighter jets. There is obviously also the need to attack and destroy their landing strips. All of this is still in its infancy. Therefore, a ceasefire would probably be premature.

[Impenitent]

Russia and China have missiles that can do that now... thing is, so do we...

They do not want a direct confrontation with the US. They are using the Houthis instead. The US also does not want a direct confrontation with the Russian Federation. They are using Ukraine for this.

the next will be fought through missiles, chemicals, radiation and starvation (and billions of civilians)

I think it will be limited to rather hundreds of millions of casualties. Furthermore, I do not see a future for chemical warfare. There is no tangible advantage in using it. On the other hand, it is possible that tactical nuclear weapons get used at some point, but all sides try to avoid that.

Hamas has reignited the hostilities in order to prod its allies to actively do something instead of signing treaties with the occupation of Palestine. This approach is slowly but gradually working, as popular pressure keeps mounting in the Middle East to join the war in Gaza. So, either the local regime delivers on joining the war, or they may sooner or later get replaced by a new regime that does.

For the people in Gaza, a ceasefire would certainly be welcome, but geopolitically, a truce would hamper new military operations against the occupation of Palestine. For example, Russia is still busy deploying anti-aircraft air-defense missiles in Syria, and training Hezbollah in their use, in order to target and shoot down IDF fighter jets. There is obviously also the need to attack and destroy their landing strips. All of this is still in its infancy. Therefore, a ceasefire would probably be premature.

no chemicals? what was covid? (biological/chemical... we've millions of gallons of VX and we'll use them)

no, not all sides want to avoid nuclear... Iran certainly doesn't want to avoid their use of them

they may not want a direct conflict with NATO countries, but that is what is going to happen

-Imp

[godelian]

no, not all sides want to avoid nuclear... Iran certainly doesn't want to avoid their use of them

As was predictable, Iran has now scaled a rung up the escalation ladder. This was in the making for months, but Iran was clearly not in a hurry. That is understandable because the decision to openly join the war on the side of Hamas is irreversible.Now it is a fact.

If Israel attacks Rafah, it is obvious that Iran will attack Israel much more vigorously.

they may not want a direct conflict with NATO countries, but that is what is going to happen

The US, the UK, and France were involved in taking out Iranian drones. So, the conflict is not direct already. That is some higher rung on the escalation ladder. Iran has not authorized this ... for now.

[Impenitent]

every Iranian oil well is about to burn

Israel is going to send 3 missiles where Iran sent over 200

Tehran is going to glow in the dark

the planet is in the third world war- gird your loins

-Imp