seeds wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:57 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:15 pm
iambiguous wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:30 pm
Okay, in regard to the laws of nature, mathematics, the empirical world around us, etc., it certainly appears that there are objective truths that transcend the "human condition" itself.
But, it only 'appears' this way to some of you, only because you human beings are still evolving towards 'catching up'.
There is absolutely nothing that so-called 'transcends' the 'human condition', itself, because a 'condition' within 'human beings' is the ability to learn, understand, and reason absolutely any and every thing.
Objective Truth is actually found and uncovered by you human beings, from which you then evolve, or transcend, into and up to the next stage of evolution, itself.
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:15 pm
My own "beef" with the truth revolves instead around conflicting value judgments.
Will you provide any actual examples?
I ask because I have not yet seen any actual Truth, which conflicts with any actual True 'value judgment'. And, I say and use 'True' to denote not just one's individual personal 'value judgment'.
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:15 pm
And yet given all that science has discovered about the universe of late, there is still that gap between what it thinks it knows is true objectively and all that would need to be known about the existence of existence itself in order to know for certain regarding such things as whether everything there is came out of nothing at all.
Human beings, in the days when this is being written, who do 'science' are so, so far away from the actual and irrefutable Truth.
Everything, also known as 'the Universe', did not come out of 'nothing at all'. And, to even just presume that It could, will just lead those further astray. As can be clearly seen, hitherto when this is being written.
Now, to prove, irrefutably, that the Universe did not begin, did not come out of nothing at all, and is not expanding is really a very simple and easy thing to do, and to understand, as well.
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:15 pm
Where does human logic fit into that? In fact, we don't even have the capacity to know for certain if human logic itself is not just another inherent component of a wholly determined universe.
Every thing that is going to happen is 'deterministic', as can also be shown and proved True.
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:15 pm
And then the part that revolves around God and religion. That may well always be one possible explanation.
All of 'that' as well fits in, perfectly, with the GUTOE, which, by the way, has ended up proving Itself irrefutably, and thus Objectively True, as well.
Dear channeled entity who calls itself "Age",...
...if you are going to smother a thread beneath the putrid evacuation of your mental bowels, don't you think you should at least attach the correct name to whomever it is you are crapping on?
The quotes you are attributing to me were made by iambiguous.
Did you receive this post of mine in your notifications "seeds"?
seeds wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:57 pm
Hit the edit button and correct your mistakes.
Now, because you told me what to do, I shall not.
I was just about to edit it, that is, until I just read this demand of yours here.
So, this will now remain, exactly, as it stands. Unless, of course, you can figure out some other way to get it edited, and thus changed.
seeds wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:57 pm
Also, in regard to this,...
Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:01 pm
seeds wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:15 pm
Like the rest of us,
you have pure "conjecture."
You need to stop assuming that you are dealing with metaphysical neophytes here who cannot analyze your assertions and see the flaws.
Are you aware that you appear to believe that there are no flaws in your assertions here "seeds"?
...anyone with the most minimal ability to comprehend what they are reading would be able to understand that implicit in what is underlined below in that statement I made to bahman...
Like the rest of us, you have pure "conjecture."
...is a clear admission (by me) that my theories could be wrong.
So why, when what is pointed out and explained to you is False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect in 'your theories' you just keep ignoring this, and just keep expressing the exact same 'theories' as though there are no flaws in them?
Some of the flaws in 'your theories' are so blatantly obvious, yet you cannot seem to see and recognize them, even after you have been explained where they are, exactly, and even why they are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect, exactly.
What is Wrong in 'your theories' here has been explained to you "seeds". So, why not go and correct them?
seeds wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:57 pm
Please, little Age, I know that life is new and exciting for you, and that you are eager to know if the fire engine is red and if the cow goes moo,...
...but you need to allow the adults to talk among themselves without you constantly interrupting them.
Don't you have a Nintendo or some other games to play with?
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If only you knew "seeds". If only you knew.