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You all know the story so there is no need to tell you. There are two main problems with this story though: (1) How he could build a ship so big that he could accommodate a pair from each species and (2) How different species whose life depends on killing and eating others could survive if there is a pair of each species they could hunt.

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:49 pm You all know the story so there is no need to tell you. There are two main problems with this story though: (1) How he could build a ship so big that he could accommodate a pair from each species and (2) How different species whose life depends on killing and eating others could survive if there is a pair of each species they could hunt.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it is just a myth.

(3) how could noah possibly collect a male and female of every living species on erf and put em on a boat.

Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:03 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:49 pm You all know the story so there is no need to tell you. There are two main problems with this story though: (1) How he could build a ship so big that he could accommodate a pair from each species and (2) How different species whose life depends on killing and eating others could survive if there is a pair of each species they could hunt.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it is just a myth.

Yes, but some people believe it so let's challenge them!

promethean75 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:20 pm (3) how could noah possibly collect a male and female of every living species on erf and put em on a boat.

Very correct. Noah has to travel a big distance on Earth to collect the animals in a remote area!

I gotta do laundry today, bahman. U got this one.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:25 pm I gotta do laundry today, bahman. U got this one.

Good luck with your laundry!

As of 2022, around 2.16 million living animal species have been described—of which around 1.05 million are insects, over 85,000 are molluscs, and around 65,000 are vertebrates. It has been estimated there are as many as 7.77 million animal species on Earth.

And what about all the plants? Most land plants can't survive prolonged periods under water. The deck of that ark must have looked like the world's biggest garden centre.

Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:43 pm

As of 2022, around 2.16 million living animal species have been described—of which around 1.05 million are insects, over 85,000 are molluscs, and around 65,000 are vertebrates. It has been estimated there are as many as 7.77 million animal species on Earth.

And what about all the plants? Most land plants can't survive prolonged periods under water. The deck of that ark must have looked like the world's biggest garden centre.

Very true.

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:49 pm You all know the story so there is no need to tell you. There are two main problems with this story though: (1) How he could build a ship so big that he could accommodate a pair from each species and (2) How different species whose life depends on killing and eating others could survive if there is a pair of each species they could hunt.

Why are you asking? The story is 100% invention.
It's the earliest written example of disaster science fiction. It demonstrates the need for fiction to have internal coherence.
All the best fiction is "true". This story is just silly.

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:23 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:03 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:49 pm You all know the story so there is no need to tell you. There are two main problems with this story though: (1) How he could build a ship so big that he could accommodate a pair from each species and (2) How different species whose life depends on killing and eating others could survive if there is a pair of each species they could hunt.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it is just a myth.

Yes, but some people believe it so let's challenge them!

Really?
Do you think there is a single person on the Forum that beleives in the myth as a literal truth?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:59 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:23 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:03 pm

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it is just a myth.

Yes, but some people believe it so let's challenge them!

Really?
Do you think there is a single person on the Forum that beleives in the myth as a literal truth?

Sure, some people believe it, like IC.

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:01 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:59 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:23 pm
Yes, but some people believe it so let's challenge them!

Really?
Do you think there is a single person on the Forum that beleives in the myth as a literal truth?

Sure, some people believe it, like IC.

You think that IC thinks that the story of Noah is literally true?
Why not PM him?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:04 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:01 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:59 pm
Really?
Do you think there is a single person on the Forum that beleives in the myth as a literal truth?

Sure, some people believe it, like IC.

You think that IC thinks that the story of Noah is literally true?

Yes, he thinks so. I am currently discussing the creation with him in the thread called "Is morality subjective or objective?".

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:04 pm Why not PM him?

I will catch him here or there.

Well, myths are not always 100% fiction. It's just that people tend to "slightly" exaggerate the highlights of a story to emphasize their importance. And over time, the story can become so overgrown with all kinds of details that even its author will no longer recognize it.
As a kid at summer camp, I happened to lie a friend that I catch a small catfish, but I released it back, so I can't show it. I thought this lie was so trivial that it could be considered a joke. However, the next day, in front of the whole camp, I was unexpectedly rewarded for an unheard of feat ... This is how myths and legends are born.