Sex and gender

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Re: Sex and gender

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Trajk Logik wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:25 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:32 am
henry quirk wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:39 am

Yes, they are. The community solution, of course, is the same as it always was. The soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and (when all else fails) the ammo box.

The individual solution is as I outline above: I acknowledge you believe you're a woman, a penguin, a houseplant, a light fixture, etc., but you aren't a woman, a penguin, a houseplant, a light fixture, etc. and I won't be bulldogged into acting you as if you are. You're a *guy, a guy with a fetish that's eaten your good sense. I can tolerate you but I'll never cowtow to you.

And, when tolerance is rejected, when push comes to shove: beat tranny ass.




*let's not forget: there are women and girls out there who are just as shithouse rat crazy thinkin' they're guys, or cats, or dragons, or unicorns...there are fewer of them, and they aren't quite as aggressive as the nutjob guys, but they are out there
They aren't dangerous to men, and they aren't 'winning' at men's sports. If men feel threatened by them then they are free to complain about it.
They are a danger to everyone's freedom of thought and speech that is the basis for all the other consequences that you are focusing on (women's safe spaces, etc.). Affirming their beliefs is what leads to the things you are focused on. What you are focused on are the symptoms. Quirk is trying to shed a light on the causes of men in women's bathrooms and sports and that is affirming their believes as fact, when they are just beliefs that have no basis in reality (delusions).
I agree. But I suppose the immediate concern of women is safety--and of course the most vocal and aggressive 'transrighters' are the men who get off on dressing up as women and doing 'women things'. I don't think they are even delusional. They know perfectly well that they are men.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:06 pmI don't think they are even delusional.
Does it matter if they are or aren't?

I don't think it matters.

Jackasses or nutjobs, the solutions are the same...

-The community solution: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and (when all else fails) the ammo box.

-The individual solution: When challenged by a tranny, say I acknowledge you believe you're a woman, a penguin, a houseplant, a light fixture, etc., but you aren't a woman, a penguin, a houseplant, a light fixture, etc. and I won't be bulldogged into acting you as if you are. You're a guy, a guy with a fetish that's eaten your good sense. I can tolerate you but I'll never cowtow to you.

And, when tolerance is rejected, when push comes to shove: beat tranny ass.
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:21 pm
-The community solution: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and (when all else fails) the ammo box.
Good old henry. If all else fails, shoot the fuckers. :)
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Harbal wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:35 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:21 pm
-The community solution: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and (when all else fails) the ammo box.
Good old henry. If all else fails, shoot the fuckers. :)
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Gender is the cultural application of sexual roles.
Sexual roles are specialized reproductive types.

Mind/Body dysphoria is caused when sexual roles are contradicted by cultural applications.

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The idea that sex and gender are different "things" is part of the same "logic" which claims that the body and mind are two different things - one is mortal and corporeal, the other immortal and incorporeal.
The differences are inversions of the other - this is a sign of nihilism which inverts all concepts.

In fact, gender is an extension of sex.
Genes to Memes.

If morality evolved to facilitate cooperative survival and reproductive strategies - necessitating specialized reproductive roles - then ethics are amendments of the first, making larger more complex systems possible - civilization.
Such amendments require modifications and sublimations of evolved impulses, e.g., monogamy and the manmade institution of marriage.
Ethics are manmade adjustments restricting individual impulses so as to attain an objective - in this case the objective is inclusivity and investment in the welfare of the group, improving competitiveness with other groups.

When the difference is extreme, as it is currently in the states, it is a symptom of degeneracy and decline.
Detaching gender, for example, form sex, decreases group cohesion and competitiveness. Individuals become radicalized - free -radicals - causing cancerous growths to emerge in the SuperOrganism.
Individuals remain un-invested and group synergy decreases.
The superorganism is dying, unable to replenish its human resources and to compete with other groups.
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Lorikeet wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:29 pm The idea that sex and gender are different "things" is part of the same "logic" which claims that the body and mind are two different things - one is mortal and corporeal, the other immortal and incorporeal.
The differences are inversions of the other - this is a sign of nihilism which inverts all concepts.

In fact, gender is an extension of sex.
Genes to Memes.
Gender is an aspect of self-concept, subjectively assigned a degree of significance from zero to all.
Sex (noun) is an objective aspect of form, objectively assigned significance.
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Lorikeet wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:35 am Gender is the cultural application of sexual roles.
Sexual roles are specialized reproductive types.

Mind/Body dysphoria is caused when sexual roles are contradicted by cultural applications.

Genes/Memes
Mind/Body dysphoria is caused when gender contradicts form. Folks sometimes change either form or self-concept to end the contradiction.
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Body is not a garment one wears....nor a prison.

Past is made present, and appearance is how a conscious being - life - interprets this presence.
Appearances are not superficial nor illusory.

Difference is not illusory, concealing uniformity, or sameness.
Difference signifies something.
This is why humans go to great lengths to alter their appearance, or to conceal it.

Sex, therefore, is an evolved specialization manifesting psychosomatically traits that differentiate it.

Gender is how culture integrates this sexual specialization so as to make use of it, relative to an ideal.
Every culture has its own ideal.
Ideals are always manmade, and differ in the degree to which they align with natural order.

Nihilistic ideals selectively or completely contradict natural order, attempting to create alternate realities, more in alignment with a cultures collectivized objectives.
Nihilism inverts: where men perceive multiplicity it declares it to be illusory, concealing a uniform singularity; where men perceive mutations and mortality, it declares it to be superficial, concealing immortality and immutability; where men perceive and experience will and choice, it declares free-will to be non-existent.....and on and on.
Nihilism is a defensive mechanism protecting human ego - lucid consciousness - from reality.
Its only tools are semiotics, manipulating and exploiting human weaknesses, human anxieties, human desires and needs.
Therefore, nihilism is a perfect political tool for controlling the masses.
Abrahamism is spiritual nihilism and Marxism is secular nihilism, but nihilism has many variants because it is not constricted by reality but is, in fact, attempting to usurp it with dogma and ideology, transmitted linguistically.

The present Transexual madness can be traced back to Abrahamic tropes....and Gnosticism, where the absurd idea of a mind/soul trapped in a corporeal physical form, described as a prison, is presented as fact, offering comfort to billions who are unhappy with their bodies and what they reveal, through its appearance.
From this comforting and seductive superstition we get to the present idea that gender is other than sex and may even contradict it....a male can claim to be trapped in the wrong body, a female body, for example.

So, nihilism created mind/body dysphoria, and this psychosomatic dysphoria is rooted in Abrahamic superstitions concealing the tangible and intangible - body and spirit/mind.
The mind is always raised above the body because it is able to transcend causality and spatial/temporal restrictions that bind the physical form to reality.
In our mind, for instance, we can travel in time, or combine two incompatible ideologies, like Judaism and Hellenism, or conceptualize two contradictory ideas, like square circles...or synthesize novel biological forms like goat-men, Satyrs, which do not and can never exist outside our minds.
This is why the mind is given divine status, referred to as spirit disconnected and independent form corporeal tangible reality.

The reason is also based on human physiognomy....and how the brain, where the mind is projected from, is encased within a skull, whereas the body wraps around the skeleton, and is exposed to reality.
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Lorikeet wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:27 am
Natural Selection:
Form follows function = nature’s efficiency.

Human selection:
Function follows form = human customizing.
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Yes...genes to memes.
Mind/Body dissonance is caused when the latter contradicts the former.
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Lorikeet wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:18 am Yes...genes to memes.
Mind/Body dissonance is caused when the latter contradicts the former.
Really?

The cause seems to be, attempting to match form to a subjective, conceptual abstraction of what that form should be. Much like AI, the former contradicting the latter.
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When men lost faith in their old narratives, they sought to preserve salvation through creative linguistics.
In the conventional use of words, contradicting experienced existence, they rediscovered that ancient messianic god, waiting to reward their commitments with his saving grace.
People of the book, by the book for the book have an additional sacred text to draw inspiration from - the dictionary.

More than just a facilitator of communication, it is a medium for spreading their sacred words, because their god is empowered by the number of faithful that remain true to his calling.
He is a creator god of conventions, transforming the world through semiotic inversions.

First was the word...collectively reaffirmed, creating alternate realities.
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Walker wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:30 am
Lorikeet wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:18 am Yes...genes to memes.
Mind/Body dissonance is caused when the latter contradicts the former.
Really?

The cause seems to be, attempting to match form to a subjective, conceptual abstraction of what that form should be. Much like AI, the former contradicting the latter.
That's what I'm saying.

Genetics contradicted by memetics.

Nature = sum of all past nurturing, is contradicted.
The motive is control.
The cause is accumulating unfit mutations, compounding over time, demanding a new standard to validate their value, seeking relief in semiotics.

Using words not to connect to experienced reality but to disconnect, so as to reinvent reality.
So, gender is detached from biological sex, and made into a pure abstraction with no external referents.....just as god was disconnected from nature and converted to a pure idea....only existing in the minds of believers.
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