Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:12 pm
seeds wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:29 am
So, at the risk of the inevitable mockery and ridicule that is sure to come my way,...
Ah yes... always plenty of that. In it's way, that too is informative and entertaining about human beings.
I really enjoyed hearing your story! Thank you for sharing it.
Thank you, Lacewing, for your thoughtful reply to my OP.
I won't attempt to address all of it right now, but here are a few thoughts in response to some of it...
seeds wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:29 am
And right at that moment, an absolute
“KNOWING” was imparted to me – a knowing that Daddy Brown was safe and
not actually dead.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:12 pm
I get it. I've experienced that kind of absolute "KNOWING" too. Momentarily stepping through the veil that separates our limited material reality from what is so much greater than that. I don't think a person can do it or even understand a description of it while being in a dense mindset. But once you've experienced it, not only do you never forget, but the experience informs you for the rest of your life.
Yes, an excellent assessment.
seeds wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:29 am
The preceding experience had such a profound effect on me that I soon thereafter quit the diving team...(relinquishing an athletic scholarship, along with all of that temporary campus glory that a 19 year old university sophomore might enjoy...)
I was from then-on obsessed with exploring this new-found state of being that not only opened a door to an entirely new way of looking at reality, but also made me vividly aware of the vast potential of the human mind.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:12 pm
Wow! Yes, it changes everything.
Boy, did it ever!
Even to the point of sometimes making it difficult to realize how radically different your mind and thinking had become - post LSD as opposed to the way things were (mentally) prior to that first trip.
In later years, I eventually came to realize that the change I experienced after tripping on LSD is probably something similar to what the NASA astronauts call the
"Overview Effect" as they look back at the earth from outer space (especially from the moon).
The following is from the website
"INVERSE," from an article where - "...six NASA astronauts describe the moment in space when
"everything changed"...":
Overview Effect
In doing so, all of them went through a change, not only in how they saw the planet but in their relationship to it. Some refer to that change as the “ Overview Effect,” a term coined in 1987 by celebrated space writer Frank White to describe the mental shift astronauts experience when they consider the Earth as part of a larger whole.
That's why I have often suggested that NASA should launch a mission designed to take the most advanced 3-D imaging cameras and go far enough out into space for the sole purpose of capturing images of the full globe of the earth in its entirety with a real view of the same 3-D
"parallax" that the astronauts see.
They could also coordinate a world-wide event where they tell everyone on the planet to stand outside at certain times and wave at the sky at the precise moment when certain 3-D pictures and 3-D videos are taken.
They could then offer these 3-D images in every format imaginable, not only via the modern IMAX 3-D theaters and VR headsets, but even via these old (and cheap) methods...
...with the idea that by everyone on the planet being able to see the whole earth in its full 3-D, parallaxial splendor relative to the backdrop of the moon, sun, and stars as the astronauts see it,...
...along with the added bonus of knowing that they were waving at the camera when the images were taken,...
...it just might trigger the
"Overview Effect."
Which, in turn, might help everyone realize just how ridiculous it is that we have divided ourselves between imaginary (non-existent) lines that we call national borders and incompatible ideologies, when, in fact, we are all in this together as - what should be - a unified species of being who all share in the common goal of ensuring the well-being of the whole of humanity.
Wouldn't that be cool?
If nothing else, it could bring the whole world together in a brief moment of universal comradery where we all share in a fun and uniting event that we all can keep reliving as we look through the lenses of our Stereopticons, View-Masters, and VR headsets.
Anyway, I guess the point hidden amidst that digression into a NASA mission is that what happens to your mind when you drop acid isn't called a
"trip" for no good reason.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:12 pm
My 5-year experimentation period during the second half of my twenties was during my marriage (which only lasted as long as my LSD experimentation
), and my trips were always wonderful, mind-expanding flights around the Universe while listening to music or exploring outside in nature. My only negative experience was when my husband forgot who I was and started jumping on the bed naked and then wanted to run outside onto a public street. I was thrust into being a 'caretaker' of him while being in full-blown tripping mode, myself. Aside from that, is was an extraordinarily beneficial time of exploration for me.
That's a great (and funny) story. Thanks for sharing that.
seeds wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:29 am
the fledgling (
Ultimate Seed) theory I had been developing.../...the time has now arrived for the release and dissemination of the information that finally finishes (resolves) the
"mystery" of what God actually is.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:12 pm
Yes, I don't know. I might look at your theory some more. Personally, I've just gotten the sense that everything is 'fine' as it is (which flips people out when I say that).
It's hard to express experiences that seem to be beyond mundane human understanding. Telepathy would perhaps be much more efficient than describing with words. But, like you (and like many), I do my best to express what I hope might be helpful/inspiring to some.
Yes, you are absolutely right, Lacewing, everything is fine.
Except for the fact that all of the old religions are floundering (and drowning) in the wake of the modern discoveries in the realms of quantum physics and astrophysics, etc., and need to be replaced by something that makes more sense - something other than materialism's "chance hypothesis",,..
...of which
if what I described in my OP is true, is no longer (and never has been) a viable option.
_______