The Ten Commandments are Garbage.
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It only proves what an impossible task it is. Hitchens' list is just as stupid as the original. Everything is 'inborn'. Serial killers can't help being serial killers. Psychopaths can't help being psychopaths. General arseholes like sculptor can't help it. Power doesn't change people. It just gives them the ability to put into practice what was there all along.
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No it wouldn't Veg, look at the commandments of www.boonyism.com (on previous page) can you honestly think there needs to be an extra commandment?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:29 pm It was a stupid idea in the first place. The list would need to be infinitely long for the infinite number of horrible things that humans are capable of doing.
Well, he did form from chaos and suffered more than any of us, so give the dude some respect.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:And talk about fucked up priorities. God has made the most prominent ones about himself. 'Thou shalt not use my name as a swear word'. 'Thou shalt grovel to me at all times'.
Quite right so! God can see into the 3rd-Eye, he doesn't want to see you wanking over your best mates wife! ..and then what might happen, mates turning on mates, nah, can't have that.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:'Thou shalt not masturbate to thoughts of someone else's property...I mean 'wife'...'
No, the original Hebrew was Thou shalt not MURDER.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:These are the most heinous things that Big Daddy could come up with??
Then there's the most ignored one of all: 'Thou shalt not kill'. What does that even mean? That everyone has to be vegetarian?
I missed those ones, he must have be pissed when he came up with them, probably thought, let's see what the stupid fuckers think about this shite.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:And what about where Big Daddy was ordering everyone to kill their neighbour if they see him working on 'the sabbath', or to murder 'witches', or slaughter children who laugh at bearded (bald?) men? What a hypocrite.
I mean really, where's the one about 'witches'!!?
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Some crap about 'not suffering a witch to live'. It's in there somewhere.attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:10 pmNo it wouldn't Veg, look at the commandments of www.boonyism.com (on previous page) can you honestly think there needs to be an extra commandment?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:29 pm It was a stupid idea in the first place. The list would need to be infinitely long for the infinite number of horrible things that humans are capable of doing.
Well, he did form from chaos and suffered more than any of us, so give the dude some respect.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:And talk about fucked up priorities. God has made the most prominent ones about himself. 'Thou shalt not use my name as a swear word'. 'Thou shalt grovel to me at all times'.
Quite right so! God can see into the 3rd-Eye, he doesn't want to see you wanking over your best mates wife! ..and then what might happen, mates turning on mates, nah, can't have that.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:'Thou shalt not masturbate to thoughts of someone else's property...I mean 'wife'...'
No, the original Hebrew was Thou shalt not MURDER.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:These are the most heinous things that Big Daddy could come up with??
Then there's the most ignored one of all: 'Thou shalt not kill'. What does that even mean? That everyone has to be vegetarian?
I missed those ones, he must have be pissed when he came up with them, probably thought, let's see what the stupid fuckers think about this shite.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:And what about where Big Daddy was ordering everyone to kill their neighbour if they see him working on 'the sabbath', or to murder 'witches', or slaughter children who laugh at bearded (bald?) men? What a hypocrite.
I mean really, where's the one about 'witches'!!?
Re: The Ten Commandments are Garbage.
Cheap ad hominem is not an argument.Alexiev wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:56 pmHitchen's antipathy toward religion (and Islam in particular) led him to support the disastrous U.S. military incursions into the Middle East. His notion that he can come up with better commandments than Moses or Jesus bespeaks a lack of humility.Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:20 pm Hitchen's alternative...
1
do not condemn people on the basis of
their ethnicity or their color number
2
do not ever even think of using
people as private property or as owned
or as slaves
3
despise those who use violence or the
threat of it in sexual relations
4 hide your face and weep if
you dare to harm a child number
5 do not condemn people for the inborn nature
why would God create so many homosexuals
only in order to torture and Destroy
them
6
be aware that you too are an animal and dependent on the web
of nature try and think and act
accordingly
7
don't imagine that you can
escape judgment if you rob people with a
false prospectus rather than with a
knife
8
turn off that
cell phone
you can have no idea how unimportant
your call is to us
9
denounce all jihadists and Crusaders for
what they are
Psychopathic criminals with ugly
delusions
and terrible sexual repressions number
10
be willing to dennounce any God or any
faith if any holy Commandments should
contradict any of the above
in short don't swallow your moral code in tablet form
Yes we should not condemn them, true. You cannot condemn anyone for the way god created them.
Look at Hitchens' commandment number 5:Suppose pedophilia is "inborn" (it's a sexual predilection just like homosexuality). Does Hitchens suggest we should avoid condemning pedophiles? Nobody (except bizarre jerks) objects to the predilection. Some object to the behavior. I agree with Hitchens that homosexuality should not be condemned (or contemned, for that matter). But other behaviors that are related to "inborn nature" -- pedophilia, violent murder, etc. -- should be.5 do not condemn people for the inborn nature
why would God create so many homosexuals only in order to torture and Destroy them
I fail to see your point here.
He does not say we cannot act against them for their ACTIONS.
Which is in fact what we do.
The trouble for condemning people for what they are makes it impossible for them to seek the help they need.
Maybe you should think more carefully??
You do not understand the word "trolling"
HItchens' notion that Crusaders and Jihadists have "terrible sexual repressions" is mere trolling. Hitchens has written some good essays, but his anti-religious screeds make him look like a bigot.
Since you have come out to condemn people's natural and unavoidable characteristics, I think that makes YOU the bigot.
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We are done here.attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:04 pmFrom this experience Chaz?
I've learned that my respect for you was misplaced, all gone now.
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Finally! We can get back to being twats to each other
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If ad hominem is not an argument, neither is repeating the Latin names for logical fallacies. It is mere trite doggerel. You are the one who thinks that all human actions are "determined". Therefore (based on the above) you appear to suggest we cannot condemn anyone for anything.Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:49 am
Cheap ad hominem is not an argument.Yes we should not condemn them, true. You cannot condemn anyone for the way god created them.
Look at Hitchens' commandment number 5:Suppose pedophilia is "inborn" (it's a sexual predilection just like homosexuality). Does Hitchens suggest we should avoid condemning pedophiles? Nobody (except bizarre jerks) objects to the predilection. Some object to the behavior. I agree with Hitchens that homosexuality should not be condemned (or contemned, for that matter). But other behaviors that are related to "inborn nature" -- pedophilia, violent murder, etc. -- should be.5 do not condemn people for the inborn nature
why would God create so many homosexuals only in order to torture and Destroy them
I fail to see your point here.
He does not say we cannot act against them for their ACTIONS.
Which is in fact what we do.
The trouble for condemning people for what they are makes it impossible for them to seek the help they need.
Maybe you should think more carefully??You do not understand the word "trolling"
HItchens' notion that Crusaders and Jihadists have "terrible sexual repressions" is mere trolling. Hitchens has written some good essays, but his anti-religious screeds make him look like a bigot.
Since you have come out to condemn people's natural and unavoidable characteristics, I think that makes YOU the bigot.
Your literacy is such that it is almost impossible to guess what you mean. Take this sentence:
Parsing all the negatives is like swimming upstream. Try as one might, one never seems to get anywhere.He does not say we cannot act against them for their ACTIONS.
Or this sentence:
"Come out"? Perhaps when translated into English the sentence would be intelligible, although incorrect. Do you mean "Since you condemn people for their natural and unavoidable characteristics, you are a bigot." The "come out" is idiotic, the "I think" redundant. Of course we can only judge "characteristics" through behavior, and it is reasonable to condemn (or at least contemn) certain behaviors regardless of whether they are "natural and unavoidable." Some people are "naturally" evil. Is that you, Sculptor?Since you have come out to condemn people's natural and unavoidable characteristics, I think that makes YOU the bigot.
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Are you part of a tranche of morons that have come onto the Forum recently or did you crawl here all by yourself?Alexiev wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:14 amIf ad hominem is not an argument, neither is repeating the Latin names for logical fallacies. It is mere trite doggerel. You are the one who thinks that all human actions are "determined". Therefore (based on the above) you appear to suggest we cannot condemn anyone for anything.Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:49 am
Cheap ad hominem is not an argument.Yes we should not condemn them, true. You cannot condemn anyone for the way god created them.
Look at Hitchens' commandment number 5:
Suppose pedophilia is "inborn" (it's a sexual predilection just like homosexuality). Does Hitchens suggest we should avoid condemning pedophiles? Nobody (except bizarre jerks) objects to the predilection. Some object to the behavior. I agree with Hitchens that homosexuality should not be condemned (or contemned, for that matter). But other behaviors that are related to "inborn nature" -- pedophilia, violent murder, etc. -- should be.
I fail to see your point here.
He does not say we cannot act against them for their ACTIONS.
Which is in fact what we do.
The trouble for condemning people for what they are makes it impossible for them to seek the help they need.
Maybe you should think more carefully??You do not understand the word "trolling"
HItchens' notion that Crusaders and Jihadists have "terrible sexual repressions" is mere trolling. Hitchens has written some good essays, but his anti-religious screeds make him look like a bigot.
Since you have come out to condemn people's natural and unavoidable characteristics, I think that makes YOU the bigot.
Your literacy is such that it is almost impossible to guess what you mean. Take this sentence:Parsing all the negatives is like swimming upstream. Try as one might, one never seems to get anywhere.He does not say we cannot act against them for their ACTIONS.
Or this sentence:"Come out"? Perhaps when translated into English the sentence would be intelligible, although incorrect. Do you mean "Since you condemn people for their natural and unavoidable characteristics, you are a bigot." The "come out" is idiotic, the "I think" redundant. Of course we can only judge "characteristics" through behavior, and it is reasonable to condemn (or at least contemn) certain behaviors regardless of whether they are "natural and unavoidable." Some people are "naturally" evil. Is that you, Sculptor?Since you have come out to condemn people's natural and unavoidable characteristics, I think that makes YOU the bigot.
And is English a second langauge for you?
Re: The Ten Commandments are Garbage.
"Her English is too good, he said, that clearly indicates that she is foreign.." -- Henry Higgins
If Higgins is correct, your illiteracy may demonstrate that English is your native tongue. Nobody could possibly accuse it of being "too good".
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It used to make me laugh at my old job where we had an Indian call centre and I'd read in their fault report "I told the customer thrice..."
I've never seen thrice used by non-Indian speakers of English (at least in anything written recently) - we just don't seem to use that term anymore.
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That would apply to spoken English. Only those who are truly confident in their native tongue can butcher it like the English do. Think all those faux cockney accents and that abomination that weird Essex females speak. No one 'really' speaks like that.
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Actually they do...and there's a reason sex is in the county name. This delightful girl from Essex used to give me free beer at my local...alas, she's gone now.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:04 amThat would apply to spoken English. Only those who are truly confident in their native tongue can butcher it like the English do. Think all those faux cockney accents and that abomination that weird Essex females speak. No one 'really' speaks like that.
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You haven't heard of the faux accentors? Of course there are genuine accents, but that's not what I'm talking about. Actually I find all the English accents hideous, apart from the neutral one. They just sound retarded. Which is odd, because I love the Welsh accent. Scottish is quite nice. Irish is lovely (but not Northern Irish). It only seems to be the English who take great pride in speaking as badly as they possibly can.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:08 amActually they do...and there's a reason sex is in the county name. This delightful girl from Essex used to give me free beer at my local...alas, she's gone now.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:04 amThat would apply to spoken English. Only those who are truly confident in their native tongue can butcher it like the English do. Think all those faux cockney accents and that abomination that weird Essex females speak. No one 'really' speaks like that.
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We English have to try and sound dumb otherwise the less intelligent (other races) would be too scared to talk to us. We also need them to lower their guard so we can pinch their stuff (silly gits).vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:13 amYou haven't heard of the faux accentors? Of course there are genuine accents, but that's not what I'm talking about. Actually I find all the English accents hideous, apart from the neutral one. They just sound retarded. Which is odd, because I love the Welsh accent. Scottish is quite nice. Irish is lovely (but not Northern Irish). It only seems to be the English who take great pride in speaking as badly as they possibly can.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:08 amActually they do...and there's a reason sex is in the county name. This delightful girl from Essex used to give me free beer at my local...alas, she's gone now.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:04 am
That would apply to spoken English. Only those who are truly confident in their native tongue can butcher it like the English do. Think all those faux cockney accents and that abomination that weird Essex females speak. No one 'really' speaks like that.
My favourite accent on the entire planet is Scouser!! ..my God, dunno what it is but when an attractive lass from Liverpool talks all I can think of is sex.
I like the Irish accent too, and ya the Belfast accent is dreadful.
ps. No, never heard of 'faux accentors'.