Infinite regress is logically impossible

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Re: Infinite regress is logically impossible

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bahman wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:52 am I am not interested in entanglement.
You don't seem to know what it is you are interested in...
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bahman wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:33 am X and Y cannot lay at the same point since otherwise we are dealing with a simultaneous process and there cannot be any change in the system.
This is incoherent gibberish.

Simultaneous change at an instant in time IS entanglement.

X and Y do lay at the same point. IN TIME.
X and Y do lay at different points. IN SPACE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_calculus

You could even imagine X and Y in terms of bisimulation. X and Y are bisimulating (mirroring?) each other. Both X and Y change instantaneously because they are perfectly bisimulating each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisimulation
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Re: Infinite regress is logically impossible

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Skepdick wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:38 am
bahman wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:33 am X and Y cannot lay at the same point since otherwise we are dealing with a simultaneous process and there cannot be any change in the system.
This is incoherent gibberish.

Simultaneous change at an instant in time IS entanglement.

X and Y do lay at the same point. IN TIME.
X and Y do lay at different points. IN SPACE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_calculus

You could even imagine X and Y in terms of bisimulation. X and Y are bisimulating (mirroring?) each other. Both X and Y change instantaneously because they are perfectly bisimulating each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisimulation
By point, I don't essentially mean a point in space or time. And yes entanglement is an example of a simultaneous process.
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bahman wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:17 am By point, I don't essentially mean a point in space or time. And yes entanglement is an example of a simultaneous process.
By point you mean a location. In some coordinate system.

If it's a point in spacetime then you can have points along the same y-coordinate (time) OR along the same x-coordinate (space).
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Skepdick wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:42 pm
bahman wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:17 am By point, I don't essentially mean a point in space or time. And yes entanglement is an example of a simultaneous process.
By point you mean a location. In some coordinate system.

If it's a point in spacetime then you can have points along the same y-coordinate (time) OR along the same x-coordinate (space).
No, by point I just mean a point.
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bahman wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:24 pm
Skepdick wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:42 pm
bahman wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:17 am By point, I don't essentially mean a point in space or time. And yes entanglement is an example of a simultaneous process.
By point you mean a location. In some coordinate system.

If it's a point in spacetime then you can have points along the same y-coordinate (time) OR along the same x-coordinate (space).
No, by point I just mean a point.
A point doesn't mean anything.

A point in ... what?
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Re: Infinite regress is logically impossible

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Skepdick wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:27 pm
bahman wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:24 pm
Skepdick wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:42 pm
By point you mean a location. In some coordinate system.

If it's a point in spacetime then you can have points along the same y-coordinate (time) OR along the same x-coordinate (space).
No, by point I just mean a point.
A point doesn't mean anything.

A point in ... what?
A point does mean something. It is an idea that can help us to understand some other ideas like simultaneous process.
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