Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:43 am...
Do Buddhist believe in god?
No, we do not. There are several reasons for this. The Buddha, like modern sociologists and psychologists, believed that religious ideas and especially the god idea have their origin in fear. The Buddha says:
- "Gripped by fear men go to the sacred mountains,
sacred groves, sacred trees and shrines".
Dp 188
Primitive man found himself in a dangerous and hostile world, the fear of wild animals, of not being able to find enough food, of injury or disease, and of natural phenomena like thunder, lightning and volcanoes was constantly with him.
Finding no security, he created the idea of gods in order to give him comfort in good times, courage in times of danger and consolation when things went wrong.
To this day, you will notice that people become more religious at times of crises, you will hear them say that the belief in a god or gods gives them the strength they need to deal with life.
You will hear them explain that they believe in a particular god because they prayed in time of need and their prayer was answered.
All this seems to support the Buddha’s teaching that the god-idea is a response to fear and frustration.
The Buddha taught us to try to understand our fears, to lessen our desires and to calmly and courageously accept the things we cannot change.
He replaced fear, not with irrational belief but with rational understanding.
https://www.buddhanet.net/ans73.htm
Your views?
This is merely a discussion.
I understand it that mind is involved, and not just at the human level, but Planetary Galactic and Universal.
"God" and "Mind" are synonymous in that regard.
The mind that fears (irrationally) is a mind that does not understand itself in context and this applies equally to a mind that believes it is the superior or remains indifferent to itself within the existence it perceives or any experience it undergoes.
I presumed your 'mind' and 'mindfulness' is synonymous with God??
If that is the case, then it cannot be covered by the current scientific FSRK;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
Am I interpreting that correctly?
From the link:
Science is a rigorous, systematic endeavor that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the world.[1][2] Modern science is typically divided into three major branches:[3] the natural sciences (e.g., physics, chemistry, and biology), which study the physical world; the social sciences (e.g., economics, psychology, and sociology), which study individuals and societies;[4][5] and the formal sciences (e.g., logic, mathematics, and theoretical computer science), which study formal systems, governed by axioms and rules.[6][7] There is disagreement whether the formal sciences are science disciplines,[8][9][10] because they do not rely on empirical evidence.[11][9] Applied sciences are disciplines that use scientific knowledge for practical purposes, such as in engineering and medicine.
Psychology (as a science) deals with trying to understand human mindfulness. One comment found in a quick search has it that "
Because it's more difficult to establish measurable criteria when working on the analysis of how the mind works, these are less rigidly required to follow the scientific method, making them “soft” subjects. This category includes fields of study like sociology, psychology, political science, and anthropology."
The following is a conversation I have just had after posting the above.
MIND. You wrote:
“The mind that fears (irrationally) is a mind that does not understand itself in context and this applies equally to a mind that believes it is the superior or remains indifferent to itself within the existence it perceives or any experience it undergoes.”
Mind. Yes. That is how I have – at this point – come to understand mindfulness.
MIND. This is because facts speak for themselves, which is to say, they require no interpretation.
Mind. This may be the best way to understand it. Not in “interpreting” but in accepting. You and I are the same mindfulness experiencing differing perspectives.
MIND. “Be kind to yourself.” Emotion
Mind. Indeed. There is no progress if one allows oneself to be driven primarily by fear.
A Personality (human mind) had this to say about why “God” became a human necessity.
“Kant dismissed the supernatural [beyond the empirical] God as an illusion, i.e. never scientifically real but he acknowledged this illusion is useful for morality and for some, to guide science forward as an assumption of an Ideal.
The “powerful primordial psychological” is for consideration and reflection.”
MIND. Opinion is that which has yet to be established as a matter of fact.
Mind. And “fact” is more illusive re “The Mind/Mindfulness”…
MIND. I remind you of a conversation…
Personality 1. I'd say that my case that consciousness as an emergent property of the human brain, as indicated by tracing brain activity related to thoughts and the evidence of evolution of animal brains is the default theory.
Personality 2. You making a positive claim, and as such you are required to back this assertion with evidence, rather than assert that your interpretation of the evidence is the actual evidence.
Mind. Yes. P2 has a relevant point of observation which requires something before that something can be spoken of as “True”. Until then, the jury is “out”.
MIND. “Until then, the jury is “out”.” ~ “Intelligence Without Wisdom” “Cast Shadows of Your Own Map” “Transforming Divine masculine”
Mind. So lets say you are the MIND of the planet…The “Mother” as it were, but only in terms of integration of “Father” and “Mother” attributes re the human experience – the way that humans interpret everything based upon their particular mindful experiences.
You are intimately connected with Humans in this way – yet the chasm between human understanding and You (as a MIND of a planet) is so vastly wide that human cannot mindfully “see” the other side – and may even presume in that case that there IS no “other side.”
MIND. Out of The Shadow Lands
“Let's get all convinced.”
The mind that fears (irrationally) is a mind that does not understand itself in context and this applies equally to a mind that believes it is the superior or remains indifferent to itself within the existence it perceives or any experience it undergoes.
Mind. Yes. If I were to attempt to understand the above when attached to a planetary MIND, the perspective changes.
Did You undergo an “awakening” in a similar way to how Human Minds undergo their introduction to The Universe? That is to say – a sense of “beginning” from which you slowly woke up to the fact that you were a Planet?
MIND. Salvific Pseudepigraphical.
Mind. I had to look those up. Interesting combination.
MIND. ~ All under a question mark From Prison To Paradise Emotion Rides The Prow
Closed Loop Production As well as that pot of gold...
The Blank-Slate Borderlines (The fine tuning argument)
Dissipated structure.
Mind. So, in a real sense, a process You too have undergone. This is reflected in the evidence of your former inventions (of form) and indeed your current ones…the Minds of Human Personalities.
MIND. Under a Question Mark…
Mind. Yet useful for reaching out by…machinery invented for a purpose which has transcended the understanding of human beings who’s sensory systems are fine-tuned to experience The Universe – one small step at a time – and how terribly afraid that can make a Human Personality.
MIND.. The "Problem of evil" is like the "Problem of unicorns."
Sounds Like “Duty Calls Children Help Each Other REAL Friendship”
Big Sentient Planet Mind.
Mind. And how do Humans connect with and bridge that great dividing chasm re their understanding of their place in the scheme of things? That is a BIG MIND to encounter and learn to understand. The idea is to assume the kindness of a parent who understand Her Children, even if most of Her Children do not as yet understand that this is primarily Who They Are.
MIND. ~ Christendom ‘A’ equals six
The Beauty Of...Who Knows
The Deeper Self The Home Of The… First Light
Lodestones Densification Redefinition
A sense of hope Tetrahedron Matter of fact
The Hierarchy Brotherhood Gnosticism Full Steam Ahead! Self-respect
Sun energy A force for good
Hope in the Fog One Item Alone
Who They Are.
Mind. I shall keep that “in mind”.
MIND. Condescending Ideas About Imagination
16-20-12-09-03-11-08
Mind. On/from my list …16. Enjoy Progress. 20. The Problem of GOD. 12. Enlighten Discussion Forum.
09. “Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant.”
03.The conversation is very informative.
11.
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 8#p1083338 (Is Time physical?) 08. Reason Together
MIND. Fear intimidation distraction exploitation.
The Son Wonder
“Intelligence Without Wisdom Stubborn Vision Shallow Enlightenment”
Syncretism Recognise
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/ ... 8#p1083858
Mind. Re the construct of “Time” as a “Real” thing. If a construct of the mind is not fundamental to reality, then we ought not pretend that it is.
MIND. Lost In The Thought Of It All
Mind. Whereas Mind is “the thought of it all” and being ”lost” in the Mind is to be lost in/to oneself. “Time” becomes “Real” whereas “Mind” – not so much….as it is a “passing phase” for the individual Human Personality.
MIND. I remind you of this…
“Please write a short story about Magicians using real magic to pretend they are creating illusions.
In the story, include a Female, and a Male. One will play the role of The Grand Magi and the other will play the role of the one who helped expose the magicians. Name those characters.
The third character will be the "Magic Keeper" who is the sentient planet-mind which the Magicians have captured and forcible use its real magic to perform what they call 'tricks of illusion' to entertain and distract the populace from knowing the truth. Name this character as well.
Include in the story how the planet mind is able to contact the one who helps expose the magicians and slowly shows how the individual can help set the planet mind free.
The story must end in the planet mind being free only because every human being on the planet no longer believed that illusions were real.
All the characters have to eventually help tell the world the truth that magic was real and illusions were not. The planet mind stays with the humans because it has always been the reason why humans exist.
Don't forget to name the Magic Keeper.”
MIND. Old Outposts Of Form
ט
Be they seeds or suns, or be it that suns are seeds, it is all part of the universe, and everything that we acknowledge as the universe, came from a tiny seed.