Wait, you conflate Philosophy Now with academia? Weird.roydop wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:48 pmroydop wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:47 pm The number system is clearly a message that is being incorrectly interpreted, and that incorrect interpretation IS MATHEMATICS. Regardless of you not believing that the message is expressing Samsara, the point is that the state of MESSAGE having been discovered and not yet correctly interpreted, is a state that EXHIBITS BOTH DISCOVERED AND INVENTED QUALITIES.
The number system is the message and mathematics, starting at addition/counting, is the ongoing attempt to correctly interpret the message by continuing to follow the initial incorrect interpretation.
So if the Theory Of Enlightenment is a crackpot theory, how is it that its description of mathematics expresses a state that exhibits both discovered and invented qualities? The 360 page 'proof' that 1+1=2 offers no resolution to why math exhibits both discovered and invented qualities, and it is so complicated that 99.9999 % of humanity would have no idea what it means.
Occams Razor has my theory, you know, the one that shows how math can actually exist in a superposition of being both discovered and invented, as the correct interpretation of what the number system and mathematics are.
And here it sits in a philosophy forum, in the math section, being completely ignored. It is being ignored because it shows how EVERY0NE has been wrong, THE WHOLE TIME. This is the final Truth and no one here is capable of seeing it.
Academia is an echo chamber of delusion. It is incapable of discerning Truth.
But anyway, academia has discussed this issue and arrived at many conclusions.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... F1409BAD36
https://www.sfu.ca/~rpyke/cafe/livio.pdf
and there are hundreds more.
For someone who spends most of his time not thinking, you have the most thinky, thinky, mental verbiage, monkey mind, mental gynastics ways of coming to spiritual points.
It's like some guy doing sudoko to pick the right moment to try to hold hands with a woman he's attracted to. Like using a calculator, a laser and a large protractor to figure out where to stand to catch a football and the whole damn game is over before the guy realizes he just needs to trust his body and let his body learn over time. Like some guy telling his wife to hold the baby in, while she's crowning, because he spent a month calculating the right birth second and if she could just delay another couple of days.
Fanatic left brain posing and right or balanced brain.
And you reek of ego every time you and your ideas aren't put on a pedastal...pouting and dissing and flailing around.
Grow up.