Science is dead!
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Science is wrong. Or more accurately every single paradigm is wrong. True science is experiment and experiment can't be wrong.
There are no laws of nature and no God's law. All is logic except homo omnisciencis.
There are no laws of nature and no God's law. All is logic except homo omnisciencis.
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But why would you human beings, or so-called 'homo omnisciencis', even want to begin to believe such a thing as this?
Until you, "cladking", came along I had never met another one of you human beings who believes it knows everything.
Surely you do not really believe this do you "cladking"?
I have also pointed out and mentioned this here in this forum a few times already about you adult human beings.
Yes I know. This was very clearly seen happening and occurring among you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, and which I have pointed out many, many times already throughout this forum.
Here is another one with holds, very deeply, this Truly bizarre and weird belief.
Now, why, exactly, do you believe that absolutely none of you human beings could exist/operate without having nor holding onto preconceptions, themselves?
you just talked about how your 'beliefs', which is just another preconception, is driving your so-called 'reasoning', in a circle right back to your very own 'assumptions'. Which, obviously, could all be False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect, from the outset, or at any time, or partially false, wrong, inaccurate, and/or incorrect.
So, once again, why have and/or keep a 'thing', like preconceptions, presumptions, and/or beliefs, which obviously may well not even be True at all?
The Real and True or irrefutable phrase or term is; 'There is 'thought', therefore 'I' am, or 'I' exist'.
And, as long as 'reasoning' is Self-proving, painting a Truly perfect Right, Accurate, and Correct Picture of all-there-is, and which is in agreement and acceptance with and by every one, then there is absolutely nothing Wrong with this at all.
But, if one's so-called 'reasoning' is just circling back on to the very pre-existing 'assumption' that one had and was 'believing' was true, in the beginning, then there is absolutely every thing Wrong with this.
So, to you, there is absolutely nothing at all whatsoever that 'is' as it 'appears'.
Which, ultimately, means that the belief, 'We can not operate at all without preconceptions', actually is not as it appears. Meaning, you human beings can actually operate without absolutely any preconceptions. Which is, and always, just an irrefutable Truth and Fact anyway, and all along.
Considering the size of the Universe, Itself, and how long It has been around for, what you just said and claimed here is a pretty big claim, especially considering how Truly little and insignificant you, and that species, really are here.
you have been around for 'how long', exactly, and know 'how much' about what actually exists in the Universe, exactly?
What, exactly, is, supposedly, all brand new, and arose only about 4000 years before this is being written?
Really?
If yes, then why do a lot of you adult human beings have a very hard time seeing past your very own personal and individual pre-existing beliefs and presumptions, or in other words your very own preconceptions, which are usually absolutely always nothing like from an 'infinite distance' at all?
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So, in one sentence is says it claims to know everything, and then, it, supposedly, claims to know absolutely nothing at all.
What do the words 'all this' refer to, exactly, which you claim to have 'discovered'?
If you already know that going astray is what often happens, when you go 'that way', then why do you keep continuing to go 'that way'?
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What is the difference between the 'science', which you claim is wrong, and, the 'true science', which you claim can not be wrong?
So, all is logic, except for you and your species, alone, right "cladking"?
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The science that is wrong is the models and interpretations. Experiment can't be wrong per se.
This species is a component of a greater logic that is reality but we don't experience consciousness/ logic as other species do. It is our perception and mental processes at odds with the rest of reality.So, all is logic, except for you and your species, alone, right "cladking"?
I do not claim to know anything. I believe I have discovered the formatting of reality that applies to all that exists and does not exist. Science nor consciousness are bound by any specific set of axioms but once a set is adopted it is required to respect each of them. Science/ experiment doesn't work like the rest of reality but is correlated to it through experiment.So, in one sentence is says it claims to know everything, and then, it, supposedly, claims to know absolutely nothing at all.
For the main part we don't even know we do it. We each try to use facts and logic to arrive at correct conclusions. But we don't understand the nature of thought, language, and consciousness. Many of our most basic beliefs arrive to us through (or with) language and these are often incorrect and have been used to create our models of understanding. We have a massive tapestry in want of having numerous loose threads pulled from it.But why would you human beings, or so-called 'homo omnisciencis', even want to begin to believe such a thing as this?
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Nobody, least of all scientists, want to begin with the conclusion. But our brains have been reprogrammed with a language that requires it. In order to "think" about anything at all we must first learn language. This language is analog, abstract, and symbolic. It must be parsed and it proceeds only one dimensionally. It is largely this one dimensionality that causes it to become circular because beliefs are always forefront in our minds and perceptions.But why would you human beings, or so-called 'homo omnisciencis', even want to begin to believe such a thing as this?
All other life "thinks" four dimensionally and results are based on the logic of their brain (nature) and their experience which is all largely determined by their genetics.
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Children are far more adaptable.I have also pointed out and mentioned this here in this forum a few times already about you adult human beings.
In a nutshell it is because the natural human language that was digital, logical, and representational grew far too complex for the average person to use. So pidgin languages sprang up everywhere. In order to think at all one must have a formatting, a language, and these new languages are illogical and contained numerous flawed premises.Now, why, exactly, do you believe that absolutely none of you human beings could exist/operate without having nor holding onto preconceptions, themselves?
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Homo omnisciencis has existed for only 4000 years. We replaced homo sapiens and our history started when they became extinct because before this history was recorded in the older language that we have never been able to translate.Considering the size of the Universe, Itself, and how long It has been around for, what you just said and claimed here is a pretty big claim, especially considering how Truly little and insignificant you, and that species, really are here.
you have been around for 'how long', exactly, and know 'how much' about what actually exists in the Universe, exactly?
Our insignificance knows no bounds however this might change in the future if we don't kill ourselves first.
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Everything that exists exists without thinking except our species. This is axiomatic to all other consciousness and forms a less than poor axiom alone. If I don't believe your species exists or am unaware of it it won't simply blink out of existence or never have arisen.The Real and True or irrefutable phrase or term is; 'There is 'thought', therefore 'I' am, or 'I' exist'.
In very real ways "I" is an abstraction and even existence from our perspective is an abstraction. "Thought" is almost pure abstraction. Science based on the thinking of the observer has given us the double slit experiment.
I merely maintain that the sentence/ concept is a poor foundation for any line of thought, much less science.
What exists exists and what doesn't exist does not. We live in a grey area of abstraction between them but no abstraction actually exists. We believe we live on a mountaintop or the crown of creation looking out over all of reality but we see and experience what we believe.
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Different applications of corruption have varying impacts. For example:
Trillions Spent on ‘Climate Change’ Based on Faulty Temperature Data, Climate Experts Say
(You don’t say. Who would have ever guessed.)
https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/t ... icj23jo%3D
Experts … Ha!
- The Climate-Change Science is settled, so why are these trolls pursuing misinformation, and why is this sort of thing still allowed on the internet?
- These types of reports could interfere with the $Trillions$ yet to be spent by Non-Deniers.