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Banned on Youtube. Hmm. I wonder why...

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:33 pm Women are whatever men say women are...
Finally, a woman that understands .
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:59 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:33 pm Women are whatever men say women are...
Finally, a woman that understands .
Understands what?
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Right, like this frame of mind regarding transgender politics isn't just her own rendition of being politically correct. Her own "woke" mentality.

"Wake up people and thing about this exactly like I do!!!"

Me, I think legitimate arguments are made in regard to issues like access to public bathrooms or sports competition.

But as with most issues that divide us, there are arguments both sides can make both pro and con here: https://www.genderhq.org/trans-youth-ri ... desistance

And since one side can't just make the other side's arguments disappear, it's always best to to abandon the might makes right and right makes might mentalities and struggle to come up with actual laws that allow both sides to gain some things but not all things.
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iambiguous wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:55 am Right, like this frame of mind regarding transgender politics isn't just her own rendition of being politically correct. Her own "woke" mentality.

"Wake up people and thing about this exactly like I do!!!"

Me, I think legitimate arguments are made in regard to issues like access to public bathrooms or sports competition.

But as with most issues that divide us, there are arguments both sides can make both pro and con here: https://www.genderhq.org/trans-youth-ri ... desistance

And since one side can't just make the other side's arguments disappear, it's always best to to abandon the might makes right and right makes might mentalities and struggle to come up with actual laws that allow both sides to gain some things but not all things.
Seriously. Just fuck off.
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:lol:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:04 am
iambiguous wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:55 am Right, like this frame of mind regarding transgender politics isn't just her own rendition of being politically correct. Her own "woke" mentality.

"Wake up people and thing about this exactly like I do!!!"

Me, I think legitimate arguments are made in regard to issues like access to public bathrooms or sports competition.

But as with most issues that divide us, there are arguments both sides can make both pro and con here: https://www.genderhq.org/trans-youth-ri ... desistance

And since one side can't just make the other side's arguments disappear, it's always best to to abandon the might makes right and right makes might mentalities and struggle to come up with actual laws that allow both sides to gain some things but not all things.
Seriously. Just fuck off.
:lol:

No, seriously.

And then this part...
Indeed, what, in my opinion, is always most intriguing about these pontificators is not what they argue but the way they bully those who dare not to share their own insufferable dogmas.

So, perhaps, someday she might finally confront whatever or whoever turned her into this declamatory caricature. Something has clearly pissed her off in life. Something that brings her into places like this in order to vent. And to accumulate scapegoats.

It seems [to me] that she needs to make scapegoats of those she construes to be part of whatever she is outraged about. But what is it? And how did it come about?

Wouldn't that be far more fascinating to explore?
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iambiguous wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:03 am :lol:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:04 am
iambiguous wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:55 am Right, like this frame of mind regarding transgender politics isn't just her own rendition of being politically correct. Her own "woke" mentality.

"Wake up people and thing about this exactly like I do!!!"

Me, I think legitimate arguments are made in regard to issues like access to public bathrooms or sports competition.

But as with most issues that divide us, there are arguments both sides can make both pro and con here: https://www.genderhq.org/trans-youth-ri ... desistance

And since one side can't just make the other side's arguments disappear, it's always best to to abandon the might makes right and right makes might mentalities and struggle to come up with actual laws that allow both sides to gain some things but not all things.
Seriously. Just fuck off.
:lol:

No, seriously.

And then this part...
Indeed, what, in my opinion, is always most intriguing about these pontificators is not what they argue but the way they bully those who dare not to share their own insufferable dogmas.

So, perhaps, someday she might finally confront whatever or whoever turned her into this declamatory caricature. Something has clearly pissed her off in life. Something that brings her into places like this in order to vent. And to accumulate scapegoats.

It seems [to me] that she needs to make scapegoats of those she construes to be part of whatever she is outraged about. But what is it? And how did it come about?

Wouldn't that be far more fascinating to explore?
A 'caricature' of what, exactly? :lol:
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I think we do now, Germaine.


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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:17 am
iambiguous wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:03 am :lol:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:04 am

Seriously. Just fuck off.
:lol:

No, seriously.

And then this part...
Indeed, what, in my opinion, is always most intriguing about these pontificators is not what they argue but the way they bully those who dare not to share their own insufferable dogmas.

So, perhaps, someday she might finally confront whatever or whoever turned her into this declamatory caricature. Something has clearly pissed her off in life. Something that brings her into places like this in order to vent. And to accumulate scapegoats.

It seems [to me] that she needs to make scapegoats of those she construes to be part of whatever she is outraged about. But what is it? And how did it come about?

Wouldn't that be far more fascinating to explore?
A 'caricature' of what, exactly? :lol:
Oh, I don't know...Satyr? 8)
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Yep. He was well known for his feminist views.

Why are you on this thread? Do you have anything to say on the actual topic? Did you even watch the video? And those clips are only a tiny tiny tip of an enormous iceberg. There is NO female equivalent, ANYWHERE. Not a single video anywhere, and I would challenge anyone to find a single one.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:20 am Yep. He was well known for his feminist views.

Why are you on this thread? Do you have anything to say on the actual topic? Did you even watch the video? And those clips are only a tiny tiny tip of an enormous iceberg. There is NO female equivalent, ANYWHERE. Not a single video anywhere, and I would challenge anyone to find a single one.
Referencing Satyr has nothing to do with what he thinks about women or blacks or gays or Jews or anything else. It's the way he often heaps scorn on those who refuse to think exactly as he does about them. That's what is fascinating. How/why did he become that way?

Then the part where he and his ilk attain power in any community where there are those who don't think like they do.

At KT, a virtual community, he merely bans them from the discussions. How far would he go however in a flesh and blood community?

And yeah, I watched part of the video. It was just a series of transgender folks that to me were made to seem ridiculous...the more outrageous they appeared the better to mock them.

It reminded me of the sort of stuff that Satyr posts here: https://knowthyself.forumotion.net/t290 ... egenerates

He must spend hours on YouTube and twitter searching for the most outrageous videos to mock those who don't think exactly like he does about human sexuality. Same with race. YouTube videos that depict black men and women in all sorts of demeaning situations.

So much for the "serious philosopher" then.
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iambiguous wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:07 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:20 am Yep. He was well known for his feminist views.

Why are you on this thread? Do you have anything to say on the actual topic? Did you even watch the video? And those clips are only a tiny tiny tip of an enormous iceberg. There is NO female equivalent, ANYWHERE. Not a single video anywhere, and I would challenge anyone to find a single one.
Referencing Satyr has nothing to do with what he thinks about women or blacks or gays or Jews or anything else. It's the way he often heaps scorn on those who refuse to think exactly as he does about them. That's what is fascinating. How/why did he become that way?

Then the part where he and his ilk attain power in any community where there are those who don't think like they do.

At KT, a virtual community, he merely bans them from the discussions. How far would he go however in a flesh and blood community?

And yeah, I watched part of the video. It was just a series of transgender folks that to me were made to seem ridiculous...the more outrageous they appeared the better to mock them.

It reminded me of the sort of stuff that Satyr posts here: https://knowthyself.forumotion.net/t290 ... egenerates

He must spend hours on YouTube and twitter searching for the most outrageous videos to mock those who don't think exactly like he does about human sexuality. Same with race. YouTube videos that depict black men and women in all sorts of demeaning situations.

So much for the "serious philosopher" then.
I didn't make that video, but i do know that those clips aren't exactly rare. There are thousands upon thousands of them. Men being sexually revolting and misogynistic is sadly hardly a rarity. And I would challenge you to find a SINGLE video or website devoted to women with the equivalent behaviour-- unless it's a pornographic video FOR MEN (and I'm sure you've probably seen plenty of those).
I didn't 'become' anything. These are facts. This is what many men are like. Those are the men women now have to welcome into their spaces and sports. Did you know that there's a pornographic fetish where men go into women's toilets to film themselves wanking off to the sound of women and children peeing? And women are being ordered, under threat of being charged with a 'hate crime', to be 'welcoming' and 'inclusive' to these monsters. Shame you couldn't be bothered to watch the whole video. The ones where men are punching women in the face, spitting at them, threatening to kill them-- at WOMEN'S RIGHTS demonstrations--are recent and what is actually going on in the world RIGHT NOW. They aren't obscure vidoes that have been dug up after hours of trowling through Youtube and other sites. It's current news.
Actually Twitter has been a revelation. It took a while to get used to but the algorithm, seemingly magically, steered me to only threads by astonishingly clever, creative, insightful people. I don't even know how that happened. Where else would I ever get to actually engage with Elon Musk, JK Rowling, Richard Dawkins, or the man who wrote Father Ted? :lol: It makes this site look like a bunch of illiterate retards. No wonder no one here can grasp what 'woke' means. There is no shortage of people on Twitter who don't have such a massive problem understanding what is a pretty simple concept.
Interestingly, most of the men standing up for women are gay men. Other than a few notable exceptions men don't give a flying rat's arse. It doesn't affect them so why would they give a shit? A large percentage are no doubt enjoying women's 'come-uppance'. Men are idiots. If they want women to like them then supporting them would be a great start. Women adore the few men who are siding with them as long as it's for the right reasons. Religious nuts who are getting on the bandwagon are a hindrance--not a help.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:33 pm
iambiguous wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:07 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:20 am Yep. He was well known for his feminist views.

Why are you on this thread? Do you have anything to say on the actual topic? Did you even watch the video? And those clips are only a tiny tiny tip of an enormous iceberg. There is NO female equivalent, ANYWHERE. Not a single video anywhere, and I would challenge anyone to find a single one.
Referencing Satyr has nothing to do with what he thinks about women or blacks or gays or Jews or anything else. It's the way he often heaps scorn on those who refuse to think exactly as he does about them. That's what is fascinating. How/why did he become that way?

Then the part where he and his ilk attain power in any community where there are those who don't think like they do.

At KT, a virtual community, he merely bans them from the discussions. How far would he go however in a flesh and blood community?

And yeah, I watched part of the video. It was just a series of transgender folks that to me were made to seem ridiculous...the more outrageous they appeared the better to mock them.

It reminded me of the sort of stuff that Satyr posts here: https://knowthyself.forumotion.net/t290 ... egenerates

He must spend hours on YouTube and twitter searching for the most outrageous videos to mock those who don't think exactly like he does about human sexuality. Same with race. YouTube videos that depict black men and women in all sorts of demeaning situations.

So much for the "serious philosopher" then.
I didn't make that video, but i do know that those clips aren't exactly rare. There are thousands upon thousands of them. Men being sexually revolting and misogynistic is sadly hardly a rarity. And I would challenge you to find a SINGLE video or website devoted to women with the equivalent behaviour-- unless it's a pornographic video FOR MEN (and I'm sure you've probably seen plenty of those).
I didn't 'become' anything. These are facts. This is what many men are like. Those are the men women now have to welcome into their spaces and sports. Did you know that there's a pornographic fetish where men go into women's toilets to film themselves wanking off to the sound of women and children peeing? And women are being ordered, under threat of being charged with a 'hate crime', to be 'welcoming' and 'inclusive' to these monsters. Shame you couldn't be bothered to watch the whole video. The ones where men are punching women in the face, spitting at them, threatening to kill them-- at WOMEN'S RIGHTS demonstrations--are recent and what is actually going on in the world RIGHT NOW. They aren't obscure vidoes that have been dug up after hours of trowling through Youtube and other sites. It's current news.
Actually Twitter has been a revelation. It took a while to get used to but the algorithm, seemingly magically, steered me to only threads by astonishingly clever, creative, insightful people. I don't even know how that happened. Where else would I ever get to actually engage with Elon Musk, JK Rowling, Richard Dawkins, or the man who wrote Father Ted? :lol: It makes this site look like a bunch of illiterate retards. No wonder no one here can grasp what 'woke' means. There is no shortage of people on Twitter who don't have such a massive problem understanding what is a pretty simple concept.
Interestingly, most of the men standing up for women are gay men. Other than a few notable exceptions men don't give a flying rat's arse. It doesn't affect them so why would they give a shit? A large percentage are no doubt enjoying women's 'come-uppance'. Men are idiots. If they want women to like them then supporting them would be a great start. Women adore the few men who are siding with them as long as it's for the right reasons. Religious nuts who are getting on the bandwagon are a hindrance--not a help.
Well, this changes exactly nothing regarding my take on you.

There are things that you want everyone to "wake up" about but that's not being woke. It's only when those you despise want others to "wake up" to their own political prejudices that it's woke.

And that's before we get to the part about dasein. 8)



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I challenge you -- I dare you! -- to find even a single man who is not an idiot. And even if you do stumble upon one of the few who side with women, what are the odds it will be for the right reasons?!
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iambiguous wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:38 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:33 pm
iambiguous wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:07 pm

Referencing Satyr has nothing to do with what he thinks about women or blacks or gays or Jews or anything else. It's the way he often heaps scorn on those who refuse to think exactly as he does about them. That's what is fascinating. How/why did he become that way?

Then the part where he and his ilk attain power in any community where there are those who don't think like they do.

At KT, a virtual community, he merely bans them from the discussions. How far would he go however in a flesh and blood community?

And yeah, I watched part of the video. It was just a series of transgender folks that to me were made to seem ridiculous...the more outrageous they appeared the better to mock them.

It reminded me of the sort of stuff that Satyr posts here: https://knowthyself.forumotion.net/t290 ... egenerates

He must spend hours on YouTube and twitter searching for the most outrageous videos to mock those who don't think exactly like he does about human sexuality. Same with race. YouTube videos that depict black men and women in all sorts of demeaning situations.

So much for the "serious philosopher" then.
I didn't make that video, but i do know that those clips aren't exactly rare. There are thousands upon thousands of them. Men being sexually revolting and misogynistic is sadly hardly a rarity. And I would challenge you to find a SINGLE video or website devoted to women with the equivalent behaviour-- unless it's a pornographic video FOR MEN (and I'm sure you've probably seen plenty of those).
I didn't 'become' anything. These are facts. This is what many men are like. Those are the men women now have to welcome into their spaces and sports. Did you know that there's a pornographic fetish where men go into women's toilets to film themselves wanking off to the sound of women and children peeing? And women are being ordered, under threat of being charged with a 'hate crime', to be 'welcoming' and 'inclusive' to these monsters. Shame you couldn't be bothered to watch the whole video. The ones where men are punching women in the face, spitting at them, threatening to kill them-- at WOMEN'S RIGHTS demonstrations--are recent and what is actually going on in the world RIGHT NOW. They aren't obscure vidoes that have been dug up after hours of trowling through Youtube and other sites. It's current news.
Actually Twitter has been a revelation. It took a while to get used to but the algorithm, seemingly magically, steered me to only threads by astonishingly clever, creative, insightful people. I don't even know how that happened. Where else would I ever get to actually engage with Elon Musk, JK Rowling, Richard Dawkins, or the man who wrote Father Ted? :lol: It makes this site look like a bunch of illiterate retards. No wonder no one here can grasp what 'woke' means. There is no shortage of people on Twitter who don't have such a massive problem understanding what is a pretty simple concept.
Interestingly, most of the men standing up for women are gay men. Other than a few notable exceptions men don't give a flying rat's arse. It doesn't affect them so why would they give a shit? A large percentage are no doubt enjoying women's 'come-uppance'. Men are idiots. If they want women to like them then supporting them would be a great start. Women adore the few men who are siding with them as long as it's for the right reasons. Religious nuts who are getting on the bandwagon are a hindrance--not a help.
Well, this changes exactly nothing regarding my take on you.

There are things that you want everyone to "wake up" about but that's not being woke. It's only when those you despise want others to "wake up" to their own political prejudices that it's woke.

And that's before we get to the part about dasein. 8)



Note to others:

I challenge you -- I dare you! -- to find even a single man who is not an idiot. And even if you do stumble upon one of the few who side with women, what are the odds it will be for the right reasons?!
Thank you. I can rest my case now :lol:
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