..Y have you come across something better than at least Newtons equations to describe 'gravity'?Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:49 pmNothing like that.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:48 pm ..Ah!! U R back to wanting to redefine accepted words within the English language to suit your alternate view of "REALITY"
"Gravity" is a thought-terminating cliche.
When I ask you "Why do apples fall from trees?" the answer to such a "Why?" question is "gravity."
If it turns out that it's the latter; that there's some theory which explains why things fall better than the current gravitational theories we have then gravity is scientifically falsified and it ceases to exist.
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Haven't you? Einstein's description is better.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:51 pm ..Y have you come across something better than at least Newtons equations to describe 'gravity'?
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No it isn't. The attraction between objects is the attraction between objects.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:53 pmNo it isn't. Gravity is the attraction between objects.
Gravity is the THEORY accounting for it.
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U JUST WANT ANOTHER WORD FOR IT! =attraction equals WOT? - we call it GRAVITYSkepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:54 pmNo it isn't. The attraction between objects is the attraction between objects.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:53 pmNo it isn't. Gravity is the attraction between objects.
Gravity is the THEORY accounting for it.
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No, I don't. I am pointing the possibility of an alternative explanation/theory.
Attraction equals attraction.
The THEORY explaining the attraction is the THEORY explaining the attraction.
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Bullshit. It's the answer to a "Why?" question.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:59 pmNo. Gravity is the name we give to the attraction between objects. There are different stories/theories that account for that attraction.
Why do objects with mass attract each other? Gravity.
If we find a better theory/story the answer changes.
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Only the equations change - I'd be very surprised if the term GRAVITY changed - for mass curving towards mass.Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:01 pmBullshit. It's the answer to a "Why?" question.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:59 pmNo. Gravity is the name we give to the attraction between objects. There are different stories/theories that account for that attraction.
Why do objects with mass attract each other? Gravity.
If we find a better theory/story the answer changes.
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The term. Lol.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:04 pm Only the equations change - I'd be very surprised if the term GRAVITY changed - for mass curving towards mass.
If the theory/terminology changes - the answer changes.terminology noun the body of terms used with a particular technical application in a subject of study, profession, etc.
Whether society will accept it - who cares? The thinking already has.
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..maybe in Zimbabwe.Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:10 pmThe term. Lol.attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:04 pm Only the equations change - I'd be very surprised if the term GRAVITY changed - for mass curving towards mass.
If the theory/terminology changes - the answer changes.terminology noun the body of terms used with a particular technical application in a subject of study, profession, etc.
Whether society will accept it - who cares? The thinking already has.
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So what is gravity?Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:01 pmBullshit. It's the answer to a "Why?" question.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:59 pm Gravity is the name we give to the attraction between objects. There are different stories/theories that account for that attraction.
Why do objects with mass attract each other? Gravity.
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A thought-terminating cliche.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:24 pmSo what is gravity?Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:01 pmBullshit. It's the answer to a "Why?" question.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:59 pm Gravity is the name we give to the attraction between objects. There are different stories/theories that account for that attraction.
Why do objects with mass attract each other? Gravity.
The answer to the question "Why do objects with mass attract each other?" which makes you go "Oh! OK."...
The shortest response which makes you stop asking questions.
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That's instrumentalism for you. Much better to keep asking philosophical questions like 'What causes gravity?'
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Yeah... What causes objets with mass to attract each other?Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:29 pmThat's instrumentalism for you. Much better to keep asking philosophical questions like 'What causes gravity?'
The curvature of spacetime causes it.
That's the least underdetermined story so far.