The Phenomenology of Time in Memento

[Philosophy Now]

Becca Turcotte looks at some aspects of our experience of time, as revealed by a temporally-challenging movie.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/152/The_Phenomenology_of_Time_in_Memento

[Agent Smith]

Keeping it simple, bracket out "time is ___", what do you notice about time?

[Agent Smith]

Time, some've said, is an illusion. There's even a few arguments that purportedly demonstrate that to be a fact. Guru Google will take you to the right cyberspots in case you're interested.

We can do this!

No, we can't!

We can!!

How on earth can we ...??!!

This is not earth!!

[Age]

Time, some've said, is an illusion. There's even a few arguments that purportedly demonstrate that to be a fact.

BUT, what IS 'time', EXACTLY, which 'it' could then be 'an illusion'.

See, what the 'time' word means or refers to, to me anyway, is NOT 'an illusion' AT ALL. But what a LOT of 'you', people, mean or refer to as 'time' is CERTAINLY 'AN ILLUSION'.

Guru Google will take you to the right cyberspots in case you're interested.

We can do this!

No, we can't!

We can!!

How on earth can we ...??!!

This is not earth!!

[Agent Smith]

Time, some've said, is an illusion. There's even a few arguments that purportedly demonstrate that to be a fact.

BUT, what IS 'time', EXACTLY, which 'it' could then be 'an illusion'.

See, what the 'time' word means or refers to, to me anyway, is NOT 'an illusion' AT ALL. But what a LOT of 'you', people, mean or refer to as 'time' is CERTAINLY 'AN ILLUSION'.

Guru Google will take you to the right cyberspots in case you're interested.

We can do this!

No, we can't!

We can!!

How on earth can we ...??!!

This is not earth!!

You're a one-of-a-kind on this forum; my ignorance, which is vast, forbids me to say more. That's the beating heart of philosophy as far as I'm concerned. Legends speak of sophos-es, they who've tamed the Antichrist.

As for time, Age, all I can say is that time as we know it is simply (to stick ma neck out for the executioner's axe) a convenience as opposed to a hard (perhaps painful) fact. Others, higher up on the ladder of knowing, have said the same thing in far better and, hardly needs mentioning, clearer terms.

Take a gander at this: 0, 1, 2, ...

What could that sequence be mapped to?

I'm not gonna hold my breath for your answer.

[Age]

Time, some've said, is an illusion. There's even a few arguments that purportedly demonstrate that to be a fact.

BUT, what IS 'time', EXACTLY, which 'it' could then be 'an illusion'.

See, what the 'time' word means or refers to, to me anyway, is NOT 'an illusion' AT ALL. But what a LOT of 'you', people, mean or refer to as 'time' is CERTAINLY 'AN ILLUSION'.

Guru Google will take you to the right cyberspots in case you're interested.

We can do this!

No, we can't!

We can!!

How on earth can we ...??!!

This is not earth!!

You're a one-of-a-kind on this forum

This forum is a very TINY place.

And, what you ACTUAL mean and/or are referring to here, EXACTLY, ONLY 'you' KNOW "agent smith".

; my ignorance, which is vast, forbids me to say more.

Okay, BUT this just sounds like an EXCUSE for 'you' just NOT being Truly OPEN and Honest here. Also, BLAMING some 'thing' ELSE for ESSENTIALLY 'your' OWN DOING, or for 'your' OWN LACK OF DOING here, is NOT going to help 'you' in ANY whatsoever.

That's the beating heart of philosophy as far as I'm concerned.

'What' IS the so-called 'beating heart of philosophy', EXACTLY, as far as you are concerned?

Legends speak of sophos-es, they who've tamed the Antichrist.

BUT, UNTIL 'you', adult human beings, have been 'tamed' the 'antichrist' was NEVER 'tamed'. And, at the rate 'we' are going here and at what 'you' ARE DOING and SHOWING here 'that taming' is still quite some way off.

As for time, Age, all I can say is that time as we know

Who and/or what does the 'we' word here refer to, EXACTLY?

From as far as I can tell 'we' to 'me' here is VASTLY DIFFERENT from 'we', to 'you', here.

it is simply (to stick ma neck out for the executioner's axe) a convenience as opposed to a hard (perhaps painful) fact.

I am NOT sure if you read, and/or comprehended, when I SAID and WROTE, above here;
what a LOT of 'you', people, mean or refer to as 'time' is CERTAINLY 'AN ILLUSION'.

But you NEVER sought ANY CLARITY, AT ALL, in regards to what 'this' MEANT so you may well have completely and utterly MISUNDERSTOOD or MISINTERPRETED what 'this' MEANS, EXACTLY. And, from what you have SAID and WRITTEN here you may well have.

Others, higher up on the ladder of knowing,

There is NO 'ladder of knowing' NOR ANY 'higher steps of knowing'.

EITHER one just KNOWS some 'thing or one does NOT. And, if ANY one does KNOW some 'thing', then they could EXPLAIN 'this KNOWING' to ANY "other" who, OF COURSE, is Truly INTERESTED in LEARNING, and KNOWING, of 'this thing' AS WELL. For example when one KNOWS the ANSWER to ALL the Truly, and literally, MEANING-FULL questions in Life, then that one could, and would, EXPLAIN ALL-OF-THIS in the G.U.T.O.E., that is; to those who are Truly INTERESTED in LEARNING, KNOWING, and UNDERSTANDING 'THIS'.

have said the same thing in far better and, hardly needs mentioning, clearer terms.

'Time' is JUST 'the measuring of the duration between perceived events'. 'Time', it could be said, literally started with the placing of a stick into the earth and 'measuring the movement of a shadow'. Which, by the way, 'light' is what original devices for 'measuring duration' originated from, EXACTLY. 'Time' is in reference to light and/or the speed of light, and when incorrectly called 'time travel' 'comes to pass', or 'comes to fruition' for 'you' lot, then what was, or is, found was just that traveling faster than the speed of light was all that it could for 'that kind of travel' to happen, and occur.

Take a gander at this: 0, 1, 2, ...

What could that sequence be mapped to?

The number of 'things', like apples, for example.

I'm not gonna hold my breath for your answer.

Were 'we' expected to hold our breaths WAITING for your answer to my question I posed and asked you, which WAS: What IS 'time', EXACTLY, which 'it' could then be 'an illusion'.

[Agent Smith]

BUT, what IS 'time', EXACTLY, which 'it' could then be 'an illusion'.

See, what the 'time' word means or refers to, to me anyway, is NOT 'an illusion' AT ALL. But what a LOT of 'you', people, mean or refer to as 'time' is CERTAINLY 'AN ILLUSION'.

You're a one-of-a-kind on this forum

This forum is a very TINY place.

And, what you ACTUAL mean and/or are referring to here, EXACTLY, ONLY 'you' KNOW "agent smith".

; my ignorance, which is vast, forbids me to say more.

Okay, BUT this just sounds like an EXCUSE for 'you' just NOT being Truly OPEN and Honest here. Also, BLAMING some 'thing' ELSE for ESSENTIALLY 'your' OWN DOING, or for 'your' OWN LACK OF DOING here, is NOT going to help 'you' in ANY whatsoever.

That's the beating heart of philosophy as far as I'm concerned.

'What' IS the so-called 'beating heart of philosophy', EXACTLY, as far as you are concerned?

Legends speak of sophos-es, they who've tamed the Antichrist.

BUT, UNTIL 'you', adult human beings, have been 'tamed' the 'antichrist' was NEVER 'tamed'. And, at the rate 'we' are going here and at what 'you' ARE DOING and SHOWING here 'that taming' is still quite some way off.

As for time, Age, all I can say is that time as we know

Who and/or what does the 'we' word here refer to, EXACTLY?

From as far as I can tell 'we' to 'me' here is VASTLY DIFFERENT from 'we', to 'you', here.

it is simply (to stick ma neck out for the executioner's axe) a convenience as opposed to a hard (perhaps painful) fact.

I am NOT sure if you read, and/or comprehended, when I SAID and WROTE, above here;
what a LOT of 'you', people, mean or refer to as 'time' is CERTAINLY 'AN ILLUSION'.

But you NEVER sought ANY CLARITY, AT ALL, in regards to what 'this' MEANT so you may well have completely and utterly MISUNDERSTOOD or MISINTERPRETED what 'this' MEANS, EXACTLY. And, from what you have SAID and WRITTEN here you may well have.

Others, higher up on the ladder of knowing,

There is NO 'ladder of knowing' NOR ANY 'higher steps of knowing'.

EITHER one just KNOWS some 'thing or one does NOT. And, if ANY one does KNOW some 'thing', then they could EXPLAIN 'this KNOWING' to ANY "other" who, OF COURSE, is Truly INTERESTED in LEARNING, and KNOWING, of 'this thing' AS WELL. For example when one KNOWS the ANSWER to ALL the Truly, and literally, MEANING-FULL questions in Life, then that one could, and would, EXPLAIN ALL-OF-THIS in the G.U.T.O.E., that is; to those who are Truly INTERESTED in LEARNING, KNOWING, and UNDERSTANDING 'THIS'.

have said the same thing in far better and, hardly needs mentioning, clearer terms.

'Time' is JUST 'the measuring of the duration between perceived events'. 'Time', it could be said, literally started with the placing of a stick into the earth and 'measuring the movement of a shadow'. Which, by the way, 'light' is what original devices for 'measuring duration' originated from, EXACTLY. 'Time' is in reference to light and/or the speed of light, and when incorrectly called 'time travel' 'comes to pass', or 'comes to fruition' for 'you' lot, then what was, or is, found was just that traveling faster than the speed of light was all that it could for 'that kind of travel' to happen, and occur.

Take a gander at this: 0, 1, 2, ...

What could that sequence be mapped to?

The number of 'things', like apples, for example.

I'm not gonna hold my breath for your answer.

Were 'we' expected to hold our breaths WAITING for your answer to my question I posed and asked you, which WAS: What IS 'time', EXACTLY, which 'it' could then be 'an illusion'.

The fragmentation of my post was unexpected. I didn't realize I had made that many points to snipe at.

Anyway, back to the main page (for you and me and everyone too I suppose): What is time?

My practically nonexistent experience is limited to sleep, dreamless sleep and pain, large servings of exquisite dukkha, but for some reason I feel that what you're looking for can be found in your life. There's no need to be alarmed, you don't need superpowers to pull this off. What you'll have to read though is Heidegger! I'm sorry but you'll need to carry your own bags, porters are expensive these days, oui? Bonam fortunam.

[Age]

You're a one-of-a-kind on this forum

This forum is a very TINY place.

And, what you ACTUAL mean and/or are referring to here, EXACTLY, ONLY 'you' KNOW "agent smith".

; my ignorance, which is vast, forbids me to say more.

Okay, BUT this just sounds like an EXCUSE for 'you' just NOT being Truly OPEN and Honest here. Also, BLAMING some 'thing' ELSE for ESSENTIALLY 'your' OWN DOING, or for 'your' OWN LACK OF DOING here, is NOT going to help 'you' in ANY whatsoever.

That's the beating heart of philosophy as far as I'm concerned.

'What' IS the so-called 'beating heart of philosophy', EXACTLY, as far as you are concerned?

Legends speak of sophos-es, they who've tamed the Antichrist.

BUT, UNTIL 'you', adult human beings, have been 'tamed' the 'antichrist' was NEVER 'tamed'. And, at the rate 'we' are going here and at what 'you' ARE DOING and SHOWING here 'that taming' is still quite some way off.

As for time, Age, all I can say is that time as we know

Who and/or what does the 'we' word here refer to, EXACTLY?

From as far as I can tell 'we' to 'me' here is VASTLY DIFFERENT from 'we', to 'you', here.

it is simply (to stick ma neck out for the executioner's axe) a convenience as opposed to a hard (perhaps painful) fact.

I am NOT sure if you read, and/or comprehended, when I SAID and WROTE, above here;
what a LOT of 'you', people, mean or refer to as 'time' is CERTAINLY 'AN ILLUSION'.

But you NEVER sought ANY CLARITY, AT ALL, in regards to what 'this' MEANT so you may well have completely and utterly MISUNDERSTOOD or MISINTERPRETED what 'this' MEANS, EXACTLY. And, from what you have SAID and WRITTEN here you may well have.

Others, higher up on the ladder of knowing,

There is NO 'ladder of knowing' NOR ANY 'higher steps of knowing'.

EITHER one just KNOWS some 'thing or one does NOT. And, if ANY one does KNOW some 'thing', then they could EXPLAIN 'this KNOWING' to ANY "other" who, OF COURSE, is Truly INTERESTED in LEARNING, and KNOWING, of 'this thing' AS WELL. For example when one KNOWS the ANSWER to ALL the Truly, and literally, MEANING-FULL questions in Life, then that one could, and would, EXPLAIN ALL-OF-THIS in the G.U.T.O.E., that is; to those who are Truly INTERESTED in LEARNING, KNOWING, and UNDERSTANDING 'THIS'.

have said the same thing in far better and, hardly needs mentioning, clearer terms.

'Time' is JUST 'the measuring of the duration between perceived events'. 'Time', it could be said, literally started with the placing of a stick into the earth and 'measuring the movement of a shadow'. Which, by the way, 'light' is what original devices for 'measuring duration' originated from, EXACTLY. 'Time' is in reference to light and/or the speed of light, and when incorrectly called 'time travel' 'comes to pass', or 'comes to fruition' for 'you' lot, then what was, or is, found was just that traveling faster than the speed of light was all that it could for 'that kind of travel' to happen, and occur.

Take a gander at this: 0, 1, 2, ...

What could that sequence be mapped to?

The number of 'things', like apples, for example.

I'm not gonna hold my breath for your answer.

Were 'we' expected to hold our breaths WAITING for your answer to my question I posed and asked you, which WAS: What IS 'time', EXACTLY, which 'it' could then be 'an illusion'.

The fragmentation of my post was unexpected. I didn't realize I had made that many points to snipe at.

What do you MEAN by 'snipe', EXACTLY?

Anyway, back to the main page (for you and me and everyone too I suppose): What is time?

Did you REALLY NOT READ WHERE I EXPLAINED what 'time' IS, EXACTLY?

REMEMBER that the definition for the word 'time', AND the definition for EVERY OTHER WORD, HAS TO FIT IN PERFECTLY WITH the G.U.T.O.E., or in better words the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth of 'things'.

My practically nonexistent experience is limited to sleep, dreamless sleep and pain, large servings of exquisite dukkha, but for some reason I feel that what you're looking for can be found in your life.

What do you ASSUME or PRESUME I am LOOKING FOR, EXACTLY?

There's no need to be alarmed, you don't need superpowers to pull this off.

To pull 'what' off, EXACTLY?

WHY do you so often ALLUDE to some 'thing', WITHOUT just providing ACTUAL CLARITY.

What you'll have to read though is Heidegger! I'm sorry but you'll need to carry your own bags, porters are expensive these days, oui? Bonam fortunam.

I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA NOR CLUE what you are REFERRING TO here.

[Agent Smith]

This forum is a very TINY place.

And, what you ACTUAL mean and/or are referring to here, EXACTLY, ONLY 'you' KNOW "agent smith".



Okay, BUT this just sounds like an EXCUSE for 'you' just NOT being Truly OPEN and Honest here. Also, BLAMING some 'thing' ELSE for ESSENTIALLY 'your' OWN DOING, or for 'your' OWN LACK OF DOING here, is NOT going to help 'you' in ANY whatsoever.


'What' IS the so-called 'beating heart of philosophy', EXACTLY, as far as you are concerned?


BUT, UNTIL 'you', adult human beings, have been 'tamed' the 'antichrist' was NEVER 'tamed'. And, at the rate 'we' are going here and at what 'you' ARE DOING and SHOWING here 'that taming' is still quite some way off.


Who and/or what does the 'we' word here refer to, EXACTLY?

From as far as I can tell 'we' to 'me' here is VASTLY DIFFERENT from 'we', to 'you', here.


I am NOT sure if you read, and/or comprehended, when I SAID and WROTE, above here;
what a LOT of 'you', people, mean or refer to as 'time' is CERTAINLY 'AN ILLUSION'.

But you NEVER sought ANY CLARITY, AT ALL, in regards to what 'this' MEANT so you may well have completely and utterly MISUNDERSTOOD or MISINTERPRETED what 'this' MEANS, EXACTLY. And, from what you have SAID and WRITTEN here you may well have.



There is NO 'ladder of knowing' NOR ANY 'higher steps of knowing'.

EITHER one just KNOWS some 'thing or one does NOT. And, if ANY one does KNOW some 'thing', then they could EXPLAIN 'this KNOWING' to ANY "other" who, OF COURSE, is Truly INTERESTED in LEARNING, and KNOWING, of 'this thing' AS WELL. For example when one KNOWS the ANSWER to ALL the Truly, and literally, MEANING-FULL questions in Life, then that one could, and would, EXPLAIN ALL-OF-THIS in the G.U.T.O.E., that is; to those who are Truly INTERESTED in LEARNING, KNOWING, and UNDERSTANDING 'THIS'.



'Time' is JUST 'the measuring of the duration between perceived events'. 'Time', it could be said, literally started with the placing of a stick into the earth and 'measuring the movement of a shadow'. Which, by the way, 'light' is what original devices for 'measuring duration' originated from, EXACTLY. 'Time' is in reference to light and/or the speed of light, and when incorrectly called 'time travel' 'comes to pass', or 'comes to fruition' for 'you' lot, then what was, or is, found was just that traveling faster than the speed of light was all that it could for 'that kind of travel' to happen, and occur.


The number of 'things', like apples, for example.


Were 'we' expected to hold our breaths WAITING for your answer to my question I posed and asked you, which WAS: What IS 'time', EXACTLY, which 'it' could then be 'an illusion'.

The fragmentation of my post was unexpected. I didn't realize I had made that many points to snipe at.

What do you MEAN by 'snipe', EXACTLY?

Anyway, back to the main page (for you and me and everyone too I suppose): What is time?

Did you REALLY NOT READ WHERE I EXPLAINED what 'time' IS, EXACTLY?

REMEMBER that the definition for the word 'time', AND the definition for EVERY OTHER WORD, HAS TO FIT IN PERFECTLY WITH the G.U.T.O.E., or in better words the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth of 'things'.

My practically nonexistent experience is limited to sleep, dreamless sleep and pain, large servings of exquisite dukkha, but for some reason I feel that what you're looking for can be found in your life.

What do you ASSUME or PRESUME I am LOOKING FOR, EXACTLY?

There's no need to be alarmed, you don't need superpowers to pull this off.

To pull 'what' off, EXACTLY?

WHY do you so often ALLUDE to some 'thing', WITHOUT just providing ACTUAL CLARITY.

What you'll have to read though is Heidegger! I'm sorry but you'll need to carry your own bags, porters are expensive these days, oui? Bonam fortunam.

I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA NOR CLUE what you are REFERRING TO here.

Dear Mr/Ms Age,

I hope all is well with you. Me, I'm as healthy as ... I'm feeling brand new! This probably doesn't bode well for a certain section of the population in the small town I live in, but by the grace of God, they're all Buddhists, most of 'em!

Like I said, read Heidegger!! Learn German or hire a translator or pick up an English translation. What I have done for you is too obvious to state and after reading Heidegger you'll realize that you really didn't need that pen you bought 3 days ago!

Yours faithfully,

Agent Smith

Machine Mainframe

The Matrix

[Age]

The fragmentation of my post was unexpected. I didn't realize I had made that many points to snipe at.

What do you MEAN by 'snipe', EXACTLY?

Anyway, back to the main page (for you and me and everyone too I suppose): What is time?

Did you REALLY NOT READ WHERE I EXPLAINED what 'time' IS, EXACTLY?

REMEMBER that the definition for the word 'time', AND the definition for EVERY OTHER WORD, HAS TO FIT IN PERFECTLY WITH the G.U.T.O.E., or in better words the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth of 'things'.

My practically nonexistent experience is limited to sleep, dreamless sleep and pain, large servings of exquisite dukkha, but for some reason I feel that what you're looking for can be found in your life.

What do you ASSUME or PRESUME I am LOOKING FOR, EXACTLY?

There's no need to be alarmed, you don't need superpowers to pull this off.

To pull 'what' off, EXACTLY?

WHY do you so often ALLUDE to some 'thing', WITHOUT just providing ACTUAL CLARITY.

What you'll have to read though is Heidegger! I'm sorry but you'll need to carry your own bags, porters are expensive these days, oui? Bonam fortunam.

I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA NOR CLUE what you are REFERRING TO here.

Dear Mr/Ms Age,

I hope all is well with you. Me, I'm as healthy as ... I'm feeling brand new! This probably doesn't bode well for a certain section of the population in the small town I live in, but by the grace of God, they're all Buddhists, most of 'em!

Like I said, read Heidegger!! Learn German or hire a translator or pick up an English translation.

WHY do you WANT me to READ 'that' for, EXACTLY?

What I have done for you is too obvious to state and after reading Heidegger you'll realize that you really didn't need that pen you bought 3 days ago!

What are you 'REFERRING TO' here, EXACTLY, and, what are you 'TRYING TO' IMPLY here, EXACTLY?

WHY do you KEEP ALLUDING, INSTEAD OF JUST EXPLAINING what you ACTUALLY MEAN or are REFERRING TO?

SAYING, what you have done here, laughingly 'for me', is 'too obvious' is just a USELESS COP OUT for NOT EXPLAINING what you think or BELIEVE that 'you' have done here 'for me'.

TELLING me to READ the words of SOME human being is NOT REALLY ACTUALLY DOING ANY 'thing' AT ALL, 'for me'.

WHAT, EXACTLY, do you ENVISION 'I' would GET OUT OF READING the words of that human being?

Yours faithfully,

Agent Smith

Machine Mainframe

The Matrix

[Agent Smith]

What do you MEAN by 'snipe', EXACTLY?


Did you REALLY NOT READ WHERE I EXPLAINED what 'time' IS, EXACTLY?

REMEMBER that the definition for the word 'time', AND the definition for EVERY OTHER WORD, HAS TO FIT IN PERFECTLY WITH the G.U.T.O.E., or in better words the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth of 'things'.


What do you ASSUME or PRESUME I am LOOKING FOR, EXACTLY?


To pull 'what' off, EXACTLY?

WHY do you so often ALLUDE to some 'thing', WITHOUT just providing ACTUAL CLARITY.


I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA NOR CLUE what you are REFERRING TO here.

Dear Mr/Ms Age,

I hope all is well with you. Me, I'm as healthy as ... I'm feeling brand new! This probably doesn't bode well for a certain section of the population in the small town I live in, but by the grace of God, they're all Buddhists, most of 'em!

Like I said, read Heidegger!! Learn German or hire a translator or pick up an English translation.

WHY do you WANT me to READ 'that' for, EXACTLY?

What I have done for you is too obvious to state and after reading Heidegger you'll realize that you really didn't need that pen you bought 3 days ago!

What are you 'REFERRING TO' here, EXACTLY, and, what are you 'TRYING TO' IMPLY here, EXACTLY?

WHY do you KEEP ALLUDING, INSTEAD OF JUST EXPLAINING what you ACTUALLY MEAN or are REFERRING TO?

SAYING, what you have done here, laughingly 'for me', is 'too obvious' is just a USELESS COP OUT for NOT EXPLAINING what you think or BELIEVE that 'you' have done here 'for me'.

TELLING me to READ the words of SOME human being is NOT REALLY ACTUALLY DOING ANY 'thing' AT ALL, 'for me'.

WHAT, EXACTLY, do you ENVISION 'I' would GET OUT OF READING the words of that human being?

Yours faithfully,

Agent Smith

Machine Mainframe

The Matrix

Per a friggin', friggin' long article, in a rather dubious journal from Kenya, there are exactly 134, 587, 333, 189 individual hairs on any chimpanzee. Proceed!

P. S. I'm not from Belgium

[Harbal]

P. S. I'm not from Belgium

Mmm, just as I suspected.

[Iwannaplato]

Amazing how much this thread makes me feel like the main character in Memento must have felt.

[Agent Smith]

P. S. I'm not from Belgium

Mmm, just as I suspected.

[Iwannaplato]

P. S. I'm not from Belgium

Mmm, just as I suspected.

Wow. This is like Guy Pearce putting information in his skin!!!!