We must grok what a point is before we can pass any sorta judgment on it. What I said - point is 0 dimensional - was a false start.
The Contradiction of the Point
Re: The Contradiction of the Point
1. Why the question?Age wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:53 pmIf that is what you BELIEVE is true, then that is what is true, to you, right?Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:31 pm1. Thus my arguments against you are part of reality and are not illusionary.Age wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:39 pm
OBVIOUSLY.
ONLY IF one is UNDER the ILLUSION that there ARE 'illusions'.
Are there 'illusions'?
If yes, then WHERE are 'they', and, WHAT are 'they', EXACTLY?
But it would NOT MATTER ONE IOTA what ANY one SAID here, you WILL TURN 'it' INTO A 'contradiction'.
This is BECAUSE of what you ALREADY BELIEVE to be ABSOLUTELY True.
And, what this one is doing here is a PERFECT example of 'confirmation bias' AT WORK, in REAL 'time'.
And 'that' is what this one BELIEVES is ABSOLUTELY and IRREFUTABLY TRUE, and so this one can NOT SEE ABSOLUTELY ANY thing else than 'this'.
Also, you USED the words 'this reality' above, as though you KNOW what 'this reality' IS, EXACTLY.
By the way, some of us CAN SAY what 'reality' IS, EXACTLY, and SAY 'it' IN A WAY which FITS IN PERFECTLY with EVERY 'thing' "else".
YES, a GREAT DEAL of what 'you' SAY, and CLAIM, "eodnhoj7", DOES CONTRADICT itself.
OF COURSE 'contradiction' EXISTS. 'your' WORDS, ALONE, "eodnhoj7", are LIVING PROOF of this.
Which ARE, OBVIOUSLY, ALSO 'things'.
LOL
'your', LAUGHABLE, so-called 'argument' is NOTHING MORE that just A POINTER, as well as PROOF, of just how LITTLE 'you' KNOW of 'reality', "eodnhoj7".
Although, a LOT of what 'you' SAY does HAVE a LOT of Truth WITHIN 'it' or BEHIND 'it', the WAY 'you' are EXPRESSING 'it', BECAUSE of 'your' ILL-GOTTEN BELIEFS, is just DISTORTING and TWISTING what the ACTUAL REAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth IS, EXACTLY.
Lose the ASSUMING and BELIEVING, then what IS IRREFUTABLY True WILL COME-TO-LIGHT.
Done this apply to you AS WELL?
So, if ANY one accepts that there are some arguments actually existing, then, to you, that one IS contradicting "themself", right?That would all depend on the actual illusion itself.This is OBVIOUSLY False, Wrong, Inaccurate, AND Incorrect.If this is what you BELIEVE, then so be 'it'.What happens if I know so little, do you still want to know how I know 'it'?
2. Illusions are relative and as such are partial.
3. Why?
4. Then why argue?
5. Much and little are relative, how do you know that you know?
Re: The Contradiction of the Point
Then if it is not zero dimensional it must be of one or more dimensions and yet dimensions require form and the point is formless.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:01 amWe must grok what a point is before we can pass any sorta judgment on it. What I said - point is 0 dimensional - was a false start.
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Re: The Contradiction of the Point
Excelente! A point is not a line is not a plane is not ... file not found.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:21 pmThen if it is not zero dimensional it must be of one or more dimensions and yet dimensions require form and the point is formless.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:01 amWe must grok what a point is before we can pass any sorta judgment on it. What I said - point is 0 dimensional - was a false start.
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Yet all forms can be reduced to (a) point(s) upon further inspection. From a distance all things appear as a point. The point is the ultimate paradox.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:30 pmExcelente! A point is not a line is not a plane is not ... file not found.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:21 pmThen if it is not zero dimensional it must be of one or more dimensions and yet dimensions require form and the point is formless.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:01 am
We must grok what a point is before we can pass any sorta judgment on it. What I said - point is 0 dimensional - was a false start.
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Re: The Contradiction of the Point
Ok.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:23 pmYet all forms can be reduced to (a) point(s) upon further inspection. From a distance all things appear as a point. The point is the ultimate paradox.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:30 pmExcelente! A point is not a line is not a plane is not ... file not found.
Re: The Contradiction of the Point
BECAUSE I do NOT KNOW what these numbers refer to, EXACTLY, I WILL leave what is written here, AS IT IS and STANDS.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:20 pm1. Why the question?Age wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:53 pmIf that is what you BELIEVE is true, then that is what is true, to you, right?
Done this apply to you AS WELL?
So, if ANY one accepts that there are some arguments actually existing, then, to you, that one IS contradicting "themself", right?That would all depend on the actual illusion itself.This is OBVIOUSLY False, Wrong, Inaccurate, AND Incorrect.If this is what you BELIEVE, then so be 'it'.What happens if I know so little, do you still want to know how I know 'it'?
2. Illusions are relative and as such are partial.
3. Why?
4. Then why argue?
5. Much and little are relative, how do you know that you know?
What is written and said here REALLY speaks for itself, anyway.
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1 refers to a thing. 0 refers to no thing.Age wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:11 amBECAUSE I do NOT KNOW what these numbers refer to, EXACTLY, I WILL leave what is written here, AS IT IS and STANDS.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:20 pm1. Why the question?Age wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:53 pm
If that is what you BELIEVE is true, then that is what is true, to you, right?
Done this apply to you AS WELL?
So, if ANY one accepts that there are some arguments actually existing, then, to you, that one IS contradicting "themself", right?
That would all depend on the actual illusion itself.
This is OBVIOUSLY False, Wrong, Inaccurate, AND Incorrect.
If this is what you BELIEVE, then so be 'it'.
What happens if I know so little, do you still want to know how I know 'it'?
2. Illusions are relative and as such are partial.
3. Why?
4. Then why argue?
5. Much and little are relative, how do you know that you know?
What is written and said here REALLY speaks for itself, anyway.
Re: The Contradiction of the Point
ONCE MORE you have COMPLETELY and UTTERLY MISUNDERSTOOD and MISINTERPRETED what I was ACTUALLY MEANING and REFERRING TO here.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:21 pm1 refers to a thing. 0 refers to no thing.
Re: The Contradiction of the Point
Then maybe you shouldn't be so vague in your writings.
Re: The Contradiction of the Point
LOL ONCE AGAIN ALL of the MISUNDERSTANDING and MISINTERPRETING of the 'things' I say or write here is ALL MY FAULT.
When this WAS being written, it was like SEEKING OUT and GAINING ACTUAL CLARIFICATION FIRST, BEFORE making ANY ASSUMPTIONS, BELIEFS, and/or ANY CONCLUSIONS AT ALL NEVER EVER even came up FOR CONSIDERATION, let alone was an ACTUAL 'thing, that those people would do, BACK THEN.
INSTEAD of ACTUALLY LOOKING AT their OWN mis/behaviours, they would prefer to just BLAME the "other".
How, EXACTLY, could I make:
I WILL leave what is written here, AS IT IS and STANDS, BECAUSE I do NOT KNOW what these numbers refer to, EXACTLY.
any less vague?
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It is still vague because how do you not understand 1 equals a thing and 0 equals nothing?Age wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:56 amLOL ONCE AGAIN ALL of the MISUNDERSTANDING and MISINTERPRETING of the 'things' I say or write here is ALL MY FAULT.
When this WAS being written, it was like SEEKING OUT and GAINING ACTUAL CLARIFICATION FIRST, BEFORE making ANY ASSUMPTIONS, BELIEFS, and/or ANY CONCLUSIONS AT ALL NEVER EVER even came up FOR CONSIDERATION, let alone was an ACTUAL 'thing, that those people would do, BACK THEN.
INSTEAD of ACTUALLY LOOKING AT their OWN mis/behaviours, they would prefer to just BLAME the "other".
How, EXACTLY, could I make:
I WILL leave what is written here, AS IT IS and STANDS, BECAUSE I do NOT KNOW what these numbers refer to, EXACTLY.
any less vague?
Re: The Contradiction of the Point
LOLEodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:32 pmIt is still vague because how do you not understand 1 equals a thing and 0 equals nothing?Age wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:56 amLOL ONCE AGAIN ALL of the MISUNDERSTANDING and MISINTERPRETING of the 'things' I say or write here is ALL MY FAULT.
When this WAS being written, it was like SEEKING OUT and GAINING ACTUAL CLARIFICATION FIRST, BEFORE making ANY ASSUMPTIONS, BELIEFS, and/or ANY CONCLUSIONS AT ALL NEVER EVER even came up FOR CONSIDERATION, let alone was an ACTUAL 'thing, that those people would do, BACK THEN.
INSTEAD of ACTUALLY LOOKING AT their OWN mis/behaviours, they would prefer to just BLAME the "other".
How, EXACTLY, could I make:
I WILL leave what is written here, AS IT IS and STANDS, BECAUSE I do NOT KNOW what these numbers refer to, EXACTLY.
any less vague?
LOL
LOL
I have NEVER NOT UNDERSTOOD that 1 equals a thing and 0 equals nothing.
WHY did you EVEN BEGIN TO ASSUME that what I ACTUALLY SAID and WROTE here referred to those two numbers?
MAYBE IF you GO BACK and START AGAIN you MIGHT SEE and UNDERSTAND WHERE and WHY you GOT SO FAR OFF TRACK.
We WILL WAIT, TO SEE.
Re: The Contradiction of the Point
Don't speak of 'us' by using the term 'we'. I find your conversation pointless.Age wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:06 amLOLEodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:32 pmIt is still vague because how do you not understand 1 equals a thing and 0 equals nothing?Age wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:56 am
LOL ONCE AGAIN ALL of the MISUNDERSTANDING and MISINTERPRETING of the 'things' I say or write here is ALL MY FAULT.
When this WAS being written, it was like SEEKING OUT and GAINING ACTUAL CLARIFICATION FIRST, BEFORE making ANY ASSUMPTIONS, BELIEFS, and/or ANY CONCLUSIONS AT ALL NEVER EVER even came up FOR CONSIDERATION, let alone was an ACTUAL 'thing, that those people would do, BACK THEN.
INSTEAD of ACTUALLY LOOKING AT their OWN mis/behaviours, they would prefer to just BLAME the "other".
How, EXACTLY, could I make:
I WILL leave what is written here, AS IT IS and STANDS, BECAUSE I do NOT KNOW what these numbers refer to, EXACTLY.
any less vague?
LOL
LOL
I have NEVER NOT UNDERSTOOD that 1 equals a thing and 0 equals nothing.
WHY did you EVEN BEGIN TO ASSUME that what I ACTUALLY SAID and WROTE here referred to those two numbers?
MAYBE IF you GO BACK and START AGAIN you MIGHT SEE and UNDERSTAND WHERE and WHY you GOT SO FAR OFF TRACK.
We WILL WAIT, TO SEE.
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But 'you', "eodnhoj7", were NOT included in that 'we' here. OBVIOUSLY, 'you' have, ONCE AGAIN, gone completely OFF TRACK here.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:03 pmDon't speak of 'us' by using the term 'we'. I find your conversation pointless.Age wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:06 amLOL
LOL
LOL
I have NEVER NOT UNDERSTOOD that 1 equals a thing and 0 equals nothing.
WHY did you EVEN BEGIN TO ASSUME that what I ACTUALLY SAID and WROTE here referred to those two numbers?
MAYBE IF you GO BACK and START AGAIN you MIGHT SEE and UNDERSTAND WHERE and WHY you GOT SO FAR OFF TRACK.
We WILL WAIT, TO SEE.
AGAIN, when I used the 'number' word I was NOT referring to YOUR USE of just 1 and 0. Do you NOW COMPREHEND?
AND, 'we', meaning "others" BESIDES 'you', WILL WAIT, to SEE, if you do GO BACK and RE-READ what was written here AND do come to COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND WHERE and WHY you GOT SO FAR OFF TRACK.
What you FIND or DO NOT FIND 'pointless' is of NO REAL CONCERN here.