rootseeker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:23 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:36 pm
rootseeker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:08 pm
Most theories of monotheism interpret the universe as having multiple layers or dimensions.
WHO CARES?
1. I found 'theories' to be generally a GREAT WASTE.
2. There IS and can ONLY BE One Truth regarding the Universe, Itself.
rootseeker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:08 pm
So, first God exists as a creation, and most theories of monotheism call this realm heaven. Then, God creates humans and the stars as a creation in a realm other than the realm in which God exists. The way they are connected is that God has access to the realm of humans, and humans only has access to the realm of Heaven as specially enabled by God. The most common belief within monotheism is that God's home realm is the realm of Heaven. Then from Heaven, created all matter including Earth. The way in this is interpreted is comparable to a human creating a video game like Mario World. Heaven does not necessarily have the same laws of physics as Earth and is not considered to be located in outer space but rather another world connected by hidden dimension(s), portal(s), or wormhole(s).
The 'connection' is ONLY 'hidden' to 'those' who ARE DEAF, and BLIND. AND, it is ONLY 'those' who have BELIEFS, and ASSUME, 'who' ARE DEAF, and BLIND.
rootseeker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:08 pm
Whether or not each of these layers is a "universe" is a matter of definition. According to some definitions, there are multiple universes that collectively are the omniverse, and according to others, "the universe" encompasses all of existence.
'you' here are just TELLING 'us' what 'you', people, THINK and/or DO. Which has been COMMON KNOWLEDGE FOR MILLENNIA 'now'.
rootseeker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:08 pm
Under almost all these multi-layered theories of monotheism, God is both omniscient and omnipotent, while humans are not.
Theories of God in which all of God fully and only exists in the same realm as humans are mostly but not all pantheist theories.
That said, both pantheistic and monotheistic theories typically both consider God omniscient and omnipotent, do have the same issue in considering God's perspective and whether God could want to be intentionally ignorant to more thoroughly understand a perspective or want to focus on a specific perspective more thoroughly. Omniscience and omnipotence do have a boundary layer there for consideration, that if you are all-powerful then a power could be temporary and full immersion into another perspective.
What the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth IS, EXACTLY, IS SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT to these human MADE UP 'theories' and 'stories', and there MISCONCEPTIONS, MISUNDERSTANDINGS, and MISINTERPRETATIONS.
rootseeker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:08 pm
Do you have a reference to a writing that explains your world view?
What IS 'my world view', EXACTLY?
And, the 'reference', by the way, is IN 'the writing', as some might say.
Given that you've written over 10,000 posts, it occurred to me you might have written a book about philosophy topics.
I was in the process of writing a book but did not want ANY 'thing' in it to be Inaccurate, I was also finding just how simply and easily relatively 'new messages or ideas' can be all to quickly misinterpreted and/or misunderstood, so so I decided to come to a philosophy forum, first, to have my views gauged, and critiqued. See, I thought 'philosophy' and "philosophers" were about continually looking for, finding, and coming to answers, and solutions, which could NOT be refuted, through logically reasoned Truly OPEN and Honest discussions. Although, to me, 'this' STILL IS what 'philosophy' IS and what True "philosophers" DO, I quickly FOUND that what my view is here IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT from "others" views about 'philosophy', and what "philosophers" do.
I very quickly discovered if one can CHANGE 'the views' of a so-called "philosopher", then that one can CHANGE 'the views' of absolutely ANY one "else". So, I WAIT TO SEE if 'the view' of one in this forum CAN be CHANGED, and if so, then I WILL USE 'that process' in the book that I am yet to start writing again.
rootseeker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:23 pm
Or, that there are books or articles that describe your philosophical beliefs.
I have only One belief. The term or phrase 'philosophical belief/s' is an oxymoron to me.
There are, however, countless books and articles, which all contain 'ideas', 'views', and 'conclusions' in them that describe directly 'my views', from what I come, to observe.
But getting people to LOOK and SEE PAST their OWN 'perspectives' of those same 'things', so that 'they' CAN LOOK and SEE WHERE, EXACTLY, I AM, literally, COMING FROM is actually talking longer than I had first expected.
Thus, ANOTHER example of WHY it is ALWAYS BETTER TO NEVER ASSUME ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing', FIRST.
Now, if ANY one is Truly INTERESTED and CURIOS as to coming to learn and understand, EXACTLY, HOW and WHAT IN books and articles FIT IN PERFECTLY with 'my views', and WHY some of 'my views' ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM 'the views' "others" HAVE on the EXACT SAME 'wording' in books and articles, then I am MORE than WILLING TO SHARE.
If one is WAITING FOR me to START 'this' here, then let us look AT the first words in the bible, 'In the beginning'. Now, to a great number of people, these words are IMPLIED to mean or refer to, some beginning or start of the WHOLE Universe, Itself, and this view, or belief, had become so strong among that even so-called "scientists" then "themselves" started 'theorizing' and 'assuming' that the Universe, Itself, ALSO had a start or beginning, and so 'these people', then started MAKING UP 'stories' ABOUT HOW the Universe ACTUALLY BEGUN. To which the 'stories' became SO STRONG that some started BELIEVING that the Universe MUST OF BEGUN, and then following on from these STRONGLY HELD BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS these "scientists" started 'seeing' 'evidence' IN some of the 'observations' they were making.
Just like how some people started ASSUMING and/or BELIEVING that the earth is flat, and/or the earth is at the center of the Universe. FROM those ASSUMPTIONS and BELIEFS they then STARTED 'seeing' what they WERE ASSUMING and BELIEVING. They would ALSO CLAIM that they HAD 'evidence' FROM the 'observations' that they were making, and taking.
The words, 'In the beginning', to me anyway, have absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with some so-called 'start' NOR 'beginning' of the WHOLE Universe FROM SOME 'thing' OTHER NOR OUTSIDE OF the Universe, Itself.
The words, 'In the beginning', just refers to 'what IS HAPPENING NOW' IS ALWAYS creating or causing what APPEARS to OCCUR 'next', but what IS, ESSENTIALLY, just the CONTINUAL 'NOW'.
And 'now', if ANY one would like to learn, understand, and KNOW what OTHER words MEAN, or REFER TO, to me, which, by the way, APPEARS TO FIT INTO One Truly CRYSTAL CLEAR Picture of ALL-THERE-IS, but which I have YET TO get VERIFIED, then by all means let 'us' PROCEED.
But if ANY one wants to TELL me their views', and wants to EXPRESS 'those views' as being True, Right, or Correct, then I will just ASK, FIRST, 'Can you guarantee that 'those views' are ABSOLUTELY IRREFUTABLY True, Right, or Correct?
And, if NOT, then WHY even HOLD ONTO 'them' and BOTHER WITH 'them'?