What is an idea?Maia wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:36 amIf you have the idea that you are self-aware, what is it that's having the idea?
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Something implies a thing. Things are not self-aware.
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This isn't really getting us anywhere, to be honest.
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Who am I? Everything and nothing...even neither.Age wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:48 amIf 'It' were ALREADY Truly 'Self'-aware, then 'It' could ALREADY answer the question, 'Who am 'I'?' properly and correctly.
I have ALREADY SHOWN what the EXACT answer IS here, in this forum.
Yet, did ANY of the "other" 'posters' here, hitherto when this is being written, KNOW 'the answer'?
For example, could ANY of 'you', "other" 'posters', here inform 'us' of what the answer to the question, 'Who am 'I'?' IS, EXACTLY?Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:26 pm because of not only the interactions occur within it, but also because only "everything" exists. Only "everything" exists results in self-referentiality as there is no comparison, there is no other "everything" otherwise it would not be "everything". This singularity necessitates a universal consciousness as all things, including the phenomenon of consciousness, are connected.
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So a circle starting where it is ending is not a self referential idea?
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How can there be Everything 'and' nothing when 'Everything' already includes the 'nothing'?Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:32 pmWho am I? Everything and nothing...even neither.Age wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:48 amIf 'It' were ALREADY Truly 'Self'-aware, then 'It' could ALREADY answer the question, 'Who am 'I'?' properly and correctly.
I have ALREADY SHOWN what the EXACT answer IS here, in this forum.
Yet, did ANY of the "other" 'posters' here, hitherto when this is being written, KNOW 'the answer'?
For example, could ANY of 'you', "other" 'posters', here inform 'us' of what the answer to the question, 'Who am 'I'?' IS, EXACTLY?Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:26 pm because of not only the interactions occur within it, but also because only "everything" exists. Only "everything" exists results in self-referentiality as there is no comparison, there is no other "everything" otherwise it would not be "everything". This singularity necessitates a universal consciousness as all things, including the phenomenon of consciousness, are connected.
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And that circle is the same form as self-referentiality.
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How can you use the distinct terms of "Everything" and "Nothing" in the question if both are the same thing? How can you disagree with "everything being nothing" (in other threads such as "1=0") if they are the same thing?Age wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:00 amHow can there be Everything 'and' nothing when 'Everything' already includes the 'nothing'?Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:32 pmWho am I? Everything and nothing...even neither.Age wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:48 am
If 'It' were ALREADY Truly 'Self'-aware, then 'It' could ALREADY answer the question, 'Who am 'I'?' properly and correctly.
I have ALREADY SHOWN what the EXACT answer IS here, in this forum.
Yet, did ANY of the "other" 'posters' here, hitherto when this is being written, KNOW 'the answer'?
For example, could ANY of 'you', "other" 'posters', here inform 'us' of what the answer to the question, 'Who am 'I'?' IS, EXACTLY?
As to the paradox:
If Everything includes nothing then everything and nothing are connected thus the same thing. If everything includes nothing then the act of inclusion requires a distinction between the two in the respect that 'including something' first necessitates that 'included something' as being distinct thus separate.
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But 'they' are NOT the SAME 'thing'.
LOL WHY would you even ASSUME such a 'thing'?
A car, for example, includes the 'wheel', but are 'they' the SAME 'thing'?
If yes, then HOW and WHY, EXACTLY?
But if no, then I AGREE, but I STILL WONDER WHY you ASSUMED that what is included IN 'Everything' IS the SAME 'thing' AS Everything?
As far as I AM AWARE 'you' are the ONLY one who thinks or BELIEVES that 'Everything' IS 'nothing' and that those TWO, DIFFERENT, 'things' ARE the EXACT SAME 'thing'. That is; besides maybe "dontaskme" of course.
So, HOW I VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY DISAGREE that those two VERY DIFFERENT 'things' are NOT the SAME 'thing' IS just BECAUSE 'they' are NOT the EXACT SAME 'thing'.
So, following on with this so-called "logic" when a human body is touching an airplane, for example, then 'they' TWO DIFFERENT 'things' ARE CONNECT, which, to you, MEANS, ABSOLUTELY, that 'they' ARE thus the SAME 'thing'.
Which, by the way, is Truly HILARIOUS and AMUSING to WATCH you SAY and CLAIM here.
YES.
This 'separation' HAPPENS and OCCURS IN 'conception'.
OBVIOUSLY there is ONLY One 'Thing'. BUT, just AS OBVIOUS, is the Fact that THROUGH 'conception' 'things' 'appear' or ARE 'created'.
OBVIOUSLY, when I, or "others", USE and SAY the words 'nothing' AND 'something' they do NOT mean the EXACT SAME 'thing'. Besides, OF COURSE, when you USE and SAY 'those TWO DIFFERENT words'.
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Facepalm again, and again I didn't read the rest because of your logic in the first post. If nothing and everything are not the same then not all is one as you state. The fact that the totality can have no comparison (otherwise it would not be the totality) necessitates it the same as nothingness for the totality would need comparison, as the act of standing apart allows for distinctions for distinctions are the act of standing apart, if it were a thing.Age wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:39 amBut 'they' are NOT the SAME 'thing'.
LOL WHY would you even ASSUME such a 'thing'?
A car, for example, includes the 'wheel', but are 'they' the SAME 'thing'?
If yes, then HOW and WHY, EXACTLY?
But if no, then I AGREE, but I STILL WONDER WHY you ASSUMED that what is included IN 'Everything' IS the SAME 'thing' AS Everything?
As far as I AM AWARE 'you' are the ONLY one who thinks or BELIEVES that 'Everything' IS 'nothing' and that those TWO, DIFFERENT, 'things' ARE the EXACT SAME 'thing'. That is; besides maybe "dontaskme" of course.
So, HOW I VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY DISAGREE that those two VERY DIFFERENT 'things' are NOT the SAME 'thing' IS just BECAUSE 'they' are NOT the EXACT SAME 'thing'.So, following on with this so-called "logic" when a human body is touching an airplane, for example, then 'they' TWO DIFFERENT 'things' ARE CONNECT, which, to you, MEANS, ABSOLUTELY, that 'they' ARE thus the SAME 'thing'.
Which, by the way, is Truly HILARIOUS and AMUSING to WATCH you SAY and CLAIM here.YES.
This 'separation' HAPPENS and OCCURS IN 'conception'.
OBVIOUSLY there is ONLY One 'Thing'. BUT, just AS OBVIOUS, is the Fact that THROUGH 'conception' 'things' 'appear' or ARE 'created'.
OBVIOUSLY, when I, or "others", USE and SAY the words 'nothing' AND 'something' they do NOT mean the EXACT SAME 'thing'. Besides, OF COURSE, when you USE and SAY 'those TWO DIFFERENT words'.