In defense of PC speech..
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:10 pm
In reading the IAM thread about the queen and there were
several comments about PC and the monarchy reaction...
for those who whine about PC speech, apparently have no understanding
of history... given historical reality, we are, right now, have far greater
ability to have open and free speech than at any other time in history..
the only historical time that allowed more free and open speech was
during Ancient Athens...
Think about one's ability to openly say whatever is on your mind....
until recently, you couldn't do that... you had both political and
religious censorship.. or do think one before the French Revolution
one could say that the Catholic church was corrupt, or that god was
dead or that the King was an idiot? Hardly... To openly say what was on
your mind was an excellent way to be sent to prison or even executed...
Why do you think that Descartes was so worried about what he wrote?
Galileo was put on house arrest during Descartes life.. and Descartes
noticed... you were putting your life in your hands if you spoke ill
of king, nation, god or the pope... and this was just as true in
France and England, Italy, Spain and the small German states...
(of course, different places had variations of what one could disrespect)
But at no point, during the last 2000 years, could one freely and openly
say what was on one's mind....or do you think you could doubt god
or the pope during any point in time during the Middle ages?
or trash Mohammed in the Muslim world even today?
Today we are more able to speak our minds than any other time in
history...Unlike earlier times, I can trash Biden, IQ45, the U.S.,
the church, god, Mohammed, Jesus, and have no political, religious
or social blowback....
which is vastly different than at any other time in history...
Kropotkin
several comments about PC and the monarchy reaction...
for those who whine about PC speech, apparently have no understanding
of history... given historical reality, we are, right now, have far greater
ability to have open and free speech than at any other time in history..
the only historical time that allowed more free and open speech was
during Ancient Athens...
Think about one's ability to openly say whatever is on your mind....
until recently, you couldn't do that... you had both political and
religious censorship.. or do think one before the French Revolution
one could say that the Catholic church was corrupt, or that god was
dead or that the King was an idiot? Hardly... To openly say what was on
your mind was an excellent way to be sent to prison or even executed...
Why do you think that Descartes was so worried about what he wrote?
Galileo was put on house arrest during Descartes life.. and Descartes
noticed... you were putting your life in your hands if you spoke ill
of king, nation, god or the pope... and this was just as true in
France and England, Italy, Spain and the small German states...
(of course, different places had variations of what one could disrespect)
But at no point, during the last 2000 years, could one freely and openly
say what was on one's mind....or do you think you could doubt god
or the pope during any point in time during the Middle ages?
or trash Mohammed in the Muslim world even today?
Today we are more able to speak our minds than any other time in
history...Unlike earlier times, I can trash Biden, IQ45, the U.S.,
the church, god, Mohammed, Jesus, and have no political, religious
or social blowback....
which is vastly different than at any other time in history...
Kropotkin