bobmax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:09 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:05 pm
How is non-dualism communicated about?
There is only communication.
Without anyone communicating.
It is existence that seeks its own Transcendence.
The realization that there is no one, if not pure communication, can cause dismay.
The soul understands that it is nothing and has the crossroads in front of it:
* Getting lost in nihilism, as in this case.
* Or face nothingness in the name of one's faith in the Truth.
Basically it is a question of love.
If love is lacking, nihilism is inevitable
I'm gonna be blunt. I think it's not a great thing to do to one's self and not in dialogue to say things one is actually not living. If you and DAM actually believed these things, you wouldn't be online producing so many words. And words. And words.
You be at the botanical gardens or in the woods or doing something in the flow of life.
And, yeah, sure, one can write in the flow of life...blah, blah.
But...nah, you wouldn't be here doing this. And the people who have achieved these states, they aren't online posting about and wordy wordy wording at other people who have and haven't.
So, the purpose of coming online and expressing beliefs that one is trying to believe but doesn't quite yet is something else.
And I think it would be kind to find out what is really going on. I don't mean, hey, tell me what is really going on. But for you and DAM to know why you are expressing things that you don't really believe, perhaps yet.
I know. We should just accept things at face value. I should pretend that DAM believes what she says and just says things when they are meant to be said in some non-dualist flow'. But she's shown too much of herself, the human, FULL person recently, God bless her for that, for that myth of this non-self emptiness posting hallucination to be taken seriously.
HUMANS are so, so, so much more than the tiny portions of the self presented in these abstract non-dualist and generally very repetative kinda new agey non-expressive communications.
You're trading in such a wonderful complex organism for, like your pinkies.
You are saying this is the only real part. My pinkie. And you talk a pinkie metaphysics. When a whole human is also separate and meaningful and troubled and struggling and sharing and expressing and feeling....
not some abstraction that can only repeat itself endlessly while seeming or really pretending to be profound.
I mean, I know life if fucking hard....
but it's a loss to just identify with one tiny facet of amazing life that you are.
A fly is born nondual. Bacteria are. Stones are. You want to cut yourself down into the microorganism facet of you be non-dual. Did pain drive you there? A need to be superior? A way out? Face that reason you want out...
but there is no way I will pretend that DAM for example is stronger when she talks like this. She was so much stronger when she expressed the specific human pain of dealing with RoyDop the asshole.
She was vast. And ocean. Talking like she is now and not just in this thread...
it could be produced by some programmers in a few hours, as a turing device, or phone answering message, in a few hours.
Even just the pancreas are vastly more complicated, real and interesting.