Rights and Duties

[RWStanding]

Rights and Duties
It may have been said before in some form but is worth reiterating.
We have charters of Human Rights.
These purport to list the rights that individuals have – naturally or from ‘god’.
Individual rights require society to respect those right with reciprocal duties to individuals.
But what then is still missing of greater import is the consequent duties of individuals who receive those rights, to society.
And therefore the rights of society over individuals so provided.
All of which assumes necessarily that ‘society’ is in some altruist form.
If society is authoritarian or worse, then individual rights are minimal.
If society is purely individualistic [autonomy] then duties are minimal.
Indeed if society is authoritarian, then society barely exists other than as an expression of the will of the state, or of the state ‘religion’.

[RCSaunders]

Rights and Duties
It may have been said before in some form but is worth reiterating.
We have charters of Human Rights.
These purport to list the rights that individuals have – naturally or from ‘god’.
Individual rights require society to respect those right with reciprocal duties to individuals.
But what then is still missing of greater import is the consequent duties of individuals who receive those rights, to society.
And therefore the rights of society over individuals so provided.
All of which assumes necessarily that ‘society’ is in some altruist form.
If society is authoritarian or worse, then individual rights are minimal.
If society is purely individualistic [autonomy] then duties are minimal.
Indeed if society is authoritarian, then society barely exists other than as an expression of the will of the state, or of the state ‘religion’.

There is no such thing as, "rights." No one has a claim on anything, not life, not wealth, not even freedom, that they have not earned, produced, or achieved by their own effort. "Rights," is the creed of parasites.

No one is born with any unearned of deserved obligations of any kind. One's only, "duty," is to live their own life as well and successfully as they can. "Duty," is the creed of patriotic warmongers, slavers, and government lackeys.

[jayjacobus]

A right is an entitlement, privilege or bithright. We all have rights that are unequal but basic rights cannot be denied.

A duty is an obligation or responsibility. We all have duties by belonging to groups of people.

[RCSaunders]

A right is an entitlement, privilege or bithright. We all have rights that are unequal but basic rights cannot be denied.

A duty is an obligation or responsibility. We all have duties by belonging to groups of people.

Yes, you already said that. Just saying it over and over is not going to make it true.

There no more, "rights," or, "duties," than there are demons, magic wands, gods, or fairies. They are all just fictions made up in various dreamers heads.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Rights and Duties
It may have been said before in some form but is worth reiterating.
We have charters of Human Rights.
These purport to list the rights that individuals have – naturally or from ‘god’.
Individual rights require society to respect those right with reciprocal duties to individuals.
But what then is still missing of greater import is the consequent duties of individuals who receive those rights, to society.
And therefore the rights of society over individuals so provided.
All of which assumes necessarily that ‘society’ is in some altruist form.
If society is authoritarian or worse, then individual rights are minimal.
If society is purely individualistic [autonomy] then duties are minimal.
Indeed if society is authoritarian, then society barely exists other than as an expression of the will of the state, or of the state ‘religion’.

There is no such thing as, "rights." No one has a claim on anything, not life, not wealth, not even freedom, that they have not earned, produced, or achieved by their own effort. "Rights," is the creed of parasites.

No one is born with any unearned of deserved obligations of any kind. One's only, "duty," is to live their own life as well and successfully as they can. "Duty," is the creed of patriotic warmongers, slavers, and government lackeys.

More shallow bullshit from the brainwashed American. Who decides who has 'earned' any 'rights'? What do you mean by 'earned'? How does one go about 'earning' these 'rights? What does 'earning' entail? If a human discovers the cure for every cancer, then don't all humans have the 'right' to access that knowledge? If one human discovers how to reverse global warming, don't all humans have the 'right' to that knowledge? Surely every human has contributed to it? Since 'some' humans discovered how to end a human life painlessly and peacefully, then aren't all humans entitled to access that knowledge? And be careful, because the only humans who disagree with this are religious nut-jobs who believe that suffering brings one closer to jebus. Is that you? Not every human is an Einstein, or a Newton, but their discoveries belong to each and every one of us.
Do you talk about 'human progress', or only the 'progress' of the individuals who made the discoveries which enabled that progress? Why did those humans even bother trying? What was driving them? Perhaps they were driven by the suffering of those 'lesser humans' around them? Doesn't that make those 'lesser humans' an essential component of those discoveries? Every human, in one way or another, contributes to every step forward of humankind.
Humans are inspired and driven by EACH OTHER. FACT.

[DPMartin]

A right is an entitlement, privilege or bithright. We all have rights that are unequal but basic rights cannot be denied.

A duty is an obligation or responsibility. We all have duties by belonging to groups of people.

your way wrong here

you are not entitled anything just because you were born into the world. the person that would be some ones mother can illegally abort some one before they are born into the world. therefore you are not even entitled to you first breath, let along your next breath.

a society agrees that this that and the other belongs to whom ever it addresses. and then because everyone in that society agrees by default by remaining in that society has a duty or obligation to fulfill their part of the agreement. if the agreement is dissolved for what ever reason, its back to square one on who can and should have and do. otherwise again, no one is entitled anything.

[promethean75]

"abort some one before they are born into the world. therefore you are not even entitled to you first breath, let along your next breath."

Wait a minute. If you do not begin to exist before you 'take your first breath', how can you be killed (by abortion) before you exist?

Doncha gotta be alive before you can be killed?

This is all very confusing to me and any help would be appreciated.