Life is a Terminal Illness

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Re: Life is a Terminal Illness

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trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:46 pm
Age wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:41 am
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:48 am


I'll re-demonstrate the problem:


Reality consists of the never-ending loop, ergo infinity.
But 'Reality', Itself, does NOT consist of 'infinity'

The Universe, Itself, IS 'infinite', AND 'this' is REAL.

'Reality', is a word, which the DEFINITION and MEANING of is STILL 'up for question'.
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:48 am Day 1 will be met by day 1,000, but day 1,000 won't stop the process.
To even IMAGINE or ASSUME it would be Truly ILLOGICAL. So, WHY did you IMAGINE or ASSUME 'this'?
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:48 am On the other hand, however, there is the progression hypocrisy (supported by the body-clock angle of life) of transition; daytime to nighttime means transition, and transition means movement, which in turn means life. So, in other words, life has created the clusterfuck of the never-ending loop being a living system.
Life, CREATES life.

ANY so-called "clusterfuck" in Life is CAUSED and CREATED by 'you', human beings, ALONE.

The infinite-system, sometimes known as 'Life', Itself, is PERFECTLY REASONABLE and UNDERSTANDABLE. And, REASONING and UNDERSTANDING ALL-OF-THIS is Truly VERY SIMPLE and VERY EASY, by the way.

If, however, 'you', human beings, TURN what is Truly SIMPLE and EASY into COMPLEX and HARD, or what some call a "clusterfuck", then do NOT BLAME ANY 'thing else' other than "you Truly".
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:48 am The never-ending loop has no end, by default,
OF COURSE. This is what the word 'infinite' MEANS and REFERS TO, EXACTLY.

Oh, and by the way, as there WAS 'NO end' there IS 'NO beginning' EITHER.
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:48 am yet, as it is a living system, there must be an end, because of body-clock.
Here is a GREAT and PRIME EXAMPLE of 'anthropomorphism', at its BEST.

Because the human body has a so-called "body clock". This, in NO WAY, MEANS that the Universe, Itself, HAS a "body clock" AS WELL.

In fact to CLAIM AN 'infinite-system' has a "body clock", like a 'human body' has, in the sense of 'beginning' and 'ending' is just TOTALLY ABSURD and RIDICULOUS, to say the least.

The Universe IS, OF COURSE, a 'living-system'. But It NEVER began NOR ended.

And, in fact, the KNOWN Universe IS ALWAYS HERE, EXACTLY as It is NOW, In Its 'current' state CHANGE. The Universe is ALWAYS IN a CONSTANT state of CHANGE, HERE-NOW.

Planets move, creating daytime and nighttime distinction.
What do the words 'daytime' and 'nighttime' refer to, this time?

Last time I asked you for 'clarity' about how you define the 'daylight' word, and you informed us that 'it' refers to an 'infinite system'. However, this time if I use 'your definition' here this is making LESS SENSE than before.

Of course when planets move in relation to a star, then what occurs is 'what 'you', human beings (or robots), call' 'daytime and nighttime'. But, so what?
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:46 pm Movement is life, thus, the system of the distinction in question is a living one.
The so-called 'system' 'of distinction' just happens and occurs within a brain.

There IS 'movement', and, 'movement' is 'movement', and, of course, without 'movement' there is no 'life'. But, again, so what?
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:46 pm The problem, is that the same living system is an evidential never-ending loop, yet life is a loop of start and stop.
When you say, 'life', are you referring to those little insignificant 'things', like; trees, animals, including the human ones, planets, and stars, and even robots, which ALL have a 'beginning' and an 'end', in a sense?

If yes, then what has this 'life' got to do with the eternal 'Life', which does NOT 'begin' and did NOT 'end'?

The two, by the way, are NOT the 'same' 'living systems'. They BOTH in or with the One and ONLY eternal 'Life-system', but they are NOT the 'same'.
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Age wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:51 am
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:46 pm
Age wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:41 am

But 'Reality', Itself, does NOT consist of 'infinity'

The Universe, Itself, IS 'infinite', AND 'this' is REAL.

'Reality', is a word, which the DEFINITION and MEANING of is STILL 'up for question'.



To even IMAGINE or ASSUME it would be Truly ILLOGICAL. So, WHY did you IMAGINE or ASSUME 'this'?


Life, CREATES life.

ANY so-called "clusterfuck" in Life is CAUSED and CREATED by 'you', human beings, ALONE.

The infinite-system, sometimes known as 'Life', Itself, is PERFECTLY REASONABLE and UNDERSTANDABLE. And, REASONING and UNDERSTANDING ALL-OF-THIS is Truly VERY SIMPLE and VERY EASY, by the way.

If, however, 'you', human beings, TURN what is Truly SIMPLE and EASY into COMPLEX and HARD, or what some call a "clusterfuck", then do NOT BLAME ANY 'thing else' other than "you Truly".



OF COURSE. This is what the word 'infinite' MEANS and REFERS TO, EXACTLY.

Oh, and by the way, as there WAS 'NO end' there IS 'NO beginning' EITHER.


Here is a GREAT and PRIME EXAMPLE of 'anthropomorphism', at its BEST.

Because the human body has a so-called "body clock". This, in NO WAY, MEANS that the Universe, Itself, HAS a "body clock" AS WELL.

In fact to CLAIM AN 'infinite-system' has a "body clock", like a 'human body' has, in the sense of 'beginning' and 'ending' is just TOTALLY ABSURD and RIDICULOUS, to say the least.

The Universe IS, OF COURSE, a 'living-system'. But It NEVER began NOR ended.

And, in fact, the KNOWN Universe IS ALWAYS HERE, EXACTLY as It is NOW, In Its 'current' state CHANGE. The Universe is ALWAYS IN a CONSTANT state of CHANGE, HERE-NOW.

Planets move, creating daytime and nighttime distinction.
What do the words 'daytime' and 'nighttime' refer to, this time?

Last time I asked you for 'clarity' about how you define the 'daylight' word, and you informed us that 'it' refers to an 'infinite system'. However, this time if I use 'your definition' here this is making LESS SENSE than before.

Of course when planets move in relation to a star, then what occurs is 'what 'you', human beings (or robots), call' 'daytime and nighttime'. But, so what?
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:46 pm Movement is life, thus, the system of the distinction in question is a living one.
The so-called 'system' 'of distinction' just happens and occurs within a brain.

There IS 'movement', and, 'movement' is 'movement', and, of course, without 'movement' there is no 'life'. But, again, so what?
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:46 pm The problem, is that the same living system is an evidential never-ending loop, yet life is a loop of start and stop.
When you say, 'life', are you referring to those little insignificant 'things', like; trees, animals, including the human ones, planets, and stars, and even robots, which ALL have a 'beginning' and an 'end', in a sense?

If yes, then what has this 'life' got to do with the eternal 'Life', which does NOT 'begin' and did NOT 'end'?

The two, by the way, are NOT the 'same' 'living systems'. They BOTH in or with the One and ONLY eternal 'Life-system', but they are NOT the 'same'.

By daytime and nighttime, I refer to the white and black colour scheme, of the skyline, as and when the planet revolves around the sun.

The idiosyncrasy, regarding the system of planets and the sun, and the universe, is that planets have to move in order to establish the difference of white to black, and movement is movement indeed; all movement is life.

Humanity is the inevitable source, of the planetary movement, not humanity on Earth, of course, but ancient humanity, original humanity, and the point is that because of this link, between humanity and movement, it is essential that humanity on Earth creates a loop of start and stop which isn't a never-ending loop, as the current system of the link between the two (the loop of start and stop concept and the never-ending loop concept) is a mathematical oddity.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.
The Disney tells the children that life is a highway, so they will grow up to interpret the world through this subliminal eye. This is effective, because subliminal is unreasonable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jURRsAMGuZk

Consider: thoughts are arbitrary.

This means they show up from who knows where, they slip away unnoticed to unknown places, soon you forget them.

So, folks try to corral the bad ones to separate them from the good ones. The mechanical corral controls thoughts by adding things to the body to remove thoughts. It’s a controlled highway to oblivion, however, instead of control what happens is a rest-stop before the destination. A little bit of oblivion.

This is a practice that started when human discovered fermentation. So, he cleverly put that in a bottle, although probably a hollow gourd. Likely before that, some cave dweller ventured out and bravely chewed an untasted leaf for the first time, and for awhile he thought he knew. He thought he had some new knowledge where what he actually had, was a new set of eyes.

So he chewed on that for awhile.

The urge to bottle consciousness “influencers,” eventually gave rise to the poor-boy containers, and the irony. The irony is that poor-boys know that the bottled glow misses repeating the first time the target was hit. Although the intent is there, such machinations miss the mind that finds for the first time.
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trokanmariel wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:54 pm
Age wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:51 am
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:46 pm


Planets move, creating daytime and nighttime distinction.
What do the words 'daytime' and 'nighttime' refer to, this time?

Last time I asked you for 'clarity' about how you define the 'daylight' word, and you informed us that 'it' refers to an 'infinite system'. However, this time if I use 'your definition' here this is making LESS SENSE than before.

Of course when planets move in relation to a star, then what occurs is 'what 'you', human beings (or robots), call' 'daytime and nighttime'. But, so what?
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:46 pm Movement is life, thus, the system of the distinction in question is a living one.
The so-called 'system' 'of distinction' just happens and occurs within a brain.

There IS 'movement', and, 'movement' is 'movement', and, of course, without 'movement' there is no 'life'. But, again, so what?
trokanmariel wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:46 pm The problem, is that the same living system is an evidential never-ending loop, yet life is a loop of start and stop.
When you say, 'life', are you referring to those little insignificant 'things', like; trees, animals, including the human ones, planets, and stars, and even robots, which ALL have a 'beginning' and an 'end', in a sense?

If yes, then what has this 'life' got to do with the eternal 'Life', which does NOT 'begin' and did NOT 'end'?

The two, by the way, are NOT the 'same' 'living systems'. They BOTH in or with the One and ONLY eternal 'Life-system', but they are NOT the 'same'.

By daytime and nighttime, I refer to the white and black colour scheme, of the skyline, as and when the planet revolves around the sun.

The idiosyncrasy, regarding the system of planets and the sun, and the universe, is that planets have to move in order to establish the difference of white to black, and movement is movement indeed; all movement is life.

Humanity is the inevitable source, of the planetary movement, not humanity on Earth, of course, but ancient humanity, original humanity, and the point is that because of this link, between humanity and movement, it is essential that humanity on Earth creates a loop of start and stop which isn't a never-ending loop, as the current system of the link between the two (the loop of start and stop concept and the never-ending loop concept) is a mathematical oddity.
1. To me, there is NOT so-called "mathematical oddity" here AT ALL.

2. When I SEE or HEAR the word 'humanity', then I think of those 'things' that are known as and called, 'human beings'. Now, what do the words 'not humanity of Earth' MEAN or REFER TO, EXACTLY?

3. HOW, EXACTLY, is 'humanity', itself, the INEVITABLE 'source' of the MOVEMENT of ALL planets?
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Walker wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:23 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.
The Disney tells the children that life is a highway, so they will grow up to interpret the world through this subliminal eye. This is effective, because subliminal is unreasonable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jURRsAMGuZk

Consider: thoughts are arbitrary.

This means they show up from who knows where,
'I' KNOW 'where', EXACTLY.
Nick_A wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:02 am they slip away unnoticed to unknown places, soon you forget them.
Who, or what, is the 'you', which, supposedly, soon forgets thoughts, themselves?
Walker wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:23 pm So, folks try to corral the bad ones to separate them from the good ones.
WHY, 'you' WILL ONLY 'soon' FORGET 'them', anyway?
Walker wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:23 pm The mechanical corral controls thoughts by adding things to the body to remove thoughts. It’s a controlled highway to oblivion, however, instead of control what happens is a rest-stop before the destination. A little bit of oblivion.

This is a practice that started when human discovered fermentation. So, he cleverly put that in a bottle, although probably a hollow gourd.
Here is ANOTHER 'one' who calls and labels 'human beings' as "he's".
Walker wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:23 pm Likely before that, some cave dweller ventured out and bravely chewed an untasted leaf for the first time, and for awhile he thought he knew. He thought he had some new knowledge where what he actually had, was a new set of eyes.

So he chewed on that for awhile.

The urge to bottle consciousness “influencers,” eventually gave rise to the poor-boy containers, and the irony. The irony is that poor-boys know that the bottled glow misses repeating the first time the target was hit. Although the intent is there, such machinations miss the mind that finds for the first time.
And 'what IS' this 'mind' 'thingy' here, EXACTLY?
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Life is a terminal illness since there is no cure for death.

The cure is the illness.
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Age wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:42 am WHY, 'you' WILL ONLY 'soon' FORGET 'them', anyway?
Because, folks have an inherent tendency to organize, put into order, classify, label, taxonomize, fit into a hierarchy of importance, and do all kinds of other things to thoughts that show up unannounced, and often unwelcome.

Plus, the inherent tendency to control everything that lies this side of the perception horizon supplies the motive force required to try and control the bad thoughts that invariably contaminate the good.

This tendency to corral bad thoughts is like a rancher who lives on the range and would like to seldom hear a discouraging word. The tendency is similar because ranchers like to keep the wild mustangs away from the good horses. The bad horse might mount the good, or the good might mount the bad, and all that mounting has implications. So the rancher can’t help but activate that control tendency, ‘cause doing so is the root of what makes him a rancher.

Our newly morphed male rancher, a he-man whose thoughts women can only conjecture, knows that the bad thoughts can be unruly. They can inflate beyond proportion, and they not only resist being controlled, they can’t be forgotten, although as mentioned they can be controlled Western-style, namely, numbed and then suppressed for awhile with external additives that were probably first discovered in conjunction with the first “I” to arise.

However, other methods that subtract from the load don’t involve the Western method of additives, or programming Oblivion into the destination option of the GPS navigation system.
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Age wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:42 am
'I' KNOW 'where', EXACTLY.
Where?
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And 'what IS' this 'mind' 'thingy' here, EXACTLY?
As referenced in this situation,
with all things considered,
mind is that aspect of Mind,
the innate capacity of humans,
and the innate capacity of humans modified
by limitations corrupting that capacity,
whether those limitations be self-inflicted
or from an outside source
such as trauma.

The mind-thingy is the portal of capacity both corrupted and pristine which enables a particular human to access Mind on the human frequency … and enables any other thing to access Mind through the Any-Other-Thing Portal. Important to keep in mind, every particular portal is a particular access allocation of the same Mind. Some of these allocations are shared, which enables inter-species relationships.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:09 pm Life is a terminal illness since there is no cure for death.

The cure is the illness.
Some say the cure for the cycle of birth and death is mahasamadhi.

The concept may be unfamiliar to you.
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Walker wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:15 pm I am a conjecture rattler.

Life is a Terminal Illness. There is no cure for death, death is the cure.

The concept may be unfamiliar to you.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:39 pm
Walker wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:15 pm I am a conjecture rattler.

Life is a Terminal Illness. There is no cure for death, death is the cure.

The concept may be unfamiliar to you.
The implicit suggestion was for you to bone up on the mahasamadhi concept.

Mahasamadhi is the death of death.
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Walker wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:48 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:39 pm
Walker wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:15 pm I am a conjecture rattler.

Life is a Terminal Illness. There is no cure for death, death is the cure.

The concept may be unfamiliar to you.
The implicit suggestion was for you to bone up on the mahasamadhi concept.

Mahasamadhi is the death of death.
There is no death or life for you.

Except what no one imagines in this conception.
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Sheesh. Just read about it.

Take a drink, horse.

You may find a basis for blather.
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Walker wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:57 pm Sheesh. Just read about it.

Take a drink, horse.

You may find a basis for blather.
Been there, done that, didn't buy it.

Best you just concentrate on upping your own no boner.

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