promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:55 am
Lol google the search terms 'liberals smarter than conservatives' and then 'conservatives smarter than liberals' and you'll get the same results: countless articles about why and how atheists and liberals are smarter than conservatives. That's so rude of google.
I don't believe 'smart' nor 'intelligence' is a critical criteria to assess the progress of humans or the trends within humanity.
Rather we should focus on 'wisdom' the fundamental essence of 'philosophy-proper' as that which will optimize the well being of the individual[s] and humanity.
Note this take by Jonathan Haidt, a liberal, centrist and non-theist;
All of a sudden, a whole new world opened up. Haidt discovered that
conservatives had some important insights to offer on human nature, the value of institutions, and the importance of moral capital. He felt
conservatism offered an important counterbalance to the excesses of progressivism.
He also came to appreciate the pedigree of conservatism, from the writings of people like Edmund Burke in the 18th century to Thomas Sowell in the 20th.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... on/612025/
Haidt laments the state of contemporary American politics, believing that on both the right and the left we’re seeing populism that responds to real problems but in illiberal ways. “On the right,” he said, “the populism there is really explicitly xenophobic and often explicitly racist … I think we see strands of populism on the right that are authoritarian, that I would say are incompatible with a tolerant, pluralistic, open democracy.”
Looking in the other direction, Haidt says, “we’ve messed up the word liberal and we’ve used it to just mean ‘left.’ I’ve always thought of myself as a liberal, in the John Stuart Mill sense. I believe in a society that is structured to give individuals the maximum freedom to construct lives that they want to live. We use a minimum of constraint, we value openness, creativity, individual rights. We try hard to maximize religious liberty, economic liberty, liberty of conscience, freedom of speech. That’s my ideal of a society, and that’s why I call myself a liberal.”
But on the left, Haidt said, “there’s been a movement that has made something else sacred, that has not focused on liberty, but that is focused instead on oppression and victimhood and victimization. And once you get into a framework of seeing your fellow citizens as good versus evil based on their group, it’s kind of a mirror image of the authoritarian populism on the right. Any movement that is assigning moral value to people just by looking at them is a movement I want no part of.”
Haidt went on: “I think this is a very important point for us to all keep in mind, that left and right in this country are not necessarily liberal and conservative anymore. On the left, it’s really clear that there are elements that many of us consider to be very illiberal; and on the right, it’s hard to see how Trump and many of his supporters are conservatives who have any link whatsoever to Edmund Burke. It’s very hard for me to see that. You know, I would love to live in a country with true liberals and true conservatives that engage with each other. That, I think, is a very productive disagreement. But it’s the illiberalism on each side that is making our politics so ugly, I believe.”
ibid
Haidt justified his points in detail in his book,
The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion.
Given the best and the worst of the current 'right' and 'left' at present I believe the so-called right are more net-effective [governance and morally] than the so-called left.
Whilst Trump was narcistic and boorish on a personal basis, overall on a professional basis he did a reasonable good job in compliance with his Terms of Employment as President of the USA.
The current left is so truth-averse [irrational] and is so hypocritical with their blind acceptance of the inherent evil Islam.
Note how true Muslims condemned Ilhan Omar when she lend support to the LBGTQ community;
ILHAN OMAR HAS CROSSED ALL LINES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehKy2pUw1yg
Ilhan Omar Targeted By Islamists | LGBTQ Support Termed UnIslamic |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Erui-PYdE
For those who are on the left or right ideology, they should take into account the inherent primal impulses of
tribalism in their own brain and mind before jumping to any conclusions without sufficient rational justifications.