K1Barin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:57 am
Age wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:45 pm
You have concluded that determinism is not correct. What do you say 'determinism' is?
See, saying/claiming, "Determinism is not correct", is like saying/claiming, "God is not correct". But until we are informed of what 'determinism' and 'God' is, then just saying, "they are not correct" is nonsensical.
My understanding is that determinism is that nobody has any other choice but what they are doing, and nobody makes a decision truly willingly.
What do you mean by 'truly willingly'?
K1Barin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:57 am
Any thing anyone does is decided based on what has happened previously, and they are not any part of it.
There is quite a lot of truth in the first part, and what do you mean by " they are not any part of 'it' "?
Who and/or what are 'they' exactly, and, what is 'it' exactly?
Also, HOW could it even be a possibility that ANY thing NOT be a part of EVERY thing?
K1Barin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:57 am
Every thing started from big bang explosion, and everything happening was going to happen because of that; nothing has had any choice in what happened since then.
There is absolutely NO proof that EVERY thing started from a big bang (explosion).
EVERY thing that is happening 'now' is because of what happened previously, correct?
And, maybe nothing has had any choice in what has happened. But, NO one can refute that they 'have the ability to choose', correct?
K1Barin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:57 am
By the way maybe determinism is the main reason to nihilism, and for some people to say that they don't exist.
ANY thing that ends with an 'ism' is just a 'thing' that someone BELIEVES is true. And, just because someone BELIEVES some 'thing' is true does NOT necessarily make that 'thing' true.
Also, EVERY 'ism' is just an ideology, which does NOT necessarily have absolutely ANY thing AT ALL to do with Reality and what is ACTUALLY True, Real, and Correct.
K1Barin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:57 am
Please correct me if I am wrong about determinism.
There is NO right NOR wrong about 'determinism'. EVERY person has their OWN view of 'determinism' and so EACH one puts their OWN perspective on 'determinism'.
What you expressed was just your OWN view and perspective, of which there is NOTHING 'wrong' with that, in that that is YOUR view. However, if your view can fit in PERFECTLY with EVERY thing else, with each view/thing placing each piece of the puzzle together as One making one True, FULL, and Accurate Picture of Life, Itself, is other thing.
If ALL of your views are completely and irrefutably compatible with each other, without any fault nor contradiction at all, well just have to wait and see.
What appears to be happening here, from my perspective, is that you BELIEVE 'determinism' alone does NOT exist but BELIEVE some thing else does, and you are just 'trying to' "justify" and "rationalize" your BELIEFS as being what is actually true, right, and correct.