commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:55 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:17 pm
Some more things we all know about the vaccines:
Everyone doesn’t know these things. All of us? Really?
Yep, really. I limited myself to the facts that are not actually capable of doubt, at the moment. If anybody doesn't know these facts, it's only because they're not paying attention at all. Otherwise, even proponents of the vaccine know these things.
- They were invented in sweaty haste, and with various failures along the way. This is not old, well-tried medicine. It's not even really a "vaccine," but a temporary alleviation shot.
Not even really a vaccine?
Right. If we take "vaccine" to mean the same thing as when we speak of a "polio vaccine" or a "yellow fever vaccine," this thing is not that. Those are long-term preventatives; this one is said, especially by its most enthusiastic advocates, to require at least two shots and then frequent boosters. That's no vaccine.
- They're expensive, and are making a ton of money for the pharmaceutical interests that hold them. Any pill solution is not being looked for.
Because it’s insane to think that immunity can be secured in a bath of hydrochloric acid.
I never suggested that. That's a silly suggestion: why did you make it?
I merely pointed out that while the shots are doled out at about $100 a pop, a simple pill would cost practically nothing. So the phamaceutical companies have a strong incentive to make sure it's the shot that is insisted upon.
- Powerful political interests, such as the Davos Group, are using both COVID and vaccination as a dry run for their totalitarian social-engineering plans. (This is not speculation: they've published their intentions. So we know that our politicians want us to buy in.)
What has the Davos Group done for Switzerland lately?
You need to read their blue book. That's when you'll really know what questions to ask.
- The "vaccines" do not prevent anybody receiving or transmitting the virus.
...aying that the Covid vaccine works for no one at all ...
You're misrepresenting again. I did not say that. I simply pointed out what even the pro-vaxers, pro-maskers insist is also true: that having the shot does not prevent reception of or transmission of COVID. They just hope that maybe it makes the symptoms, for those who even have symptoms, not fatal. That's it.
- There is no evidence they even shorten the length of hospital stays.
Not for anyone?
"There is no evidence" means "we have no way of knowing." But we do know that a sick person my plausibly take even more hospital time and resources than one who dies.
- If they are effective at all, it's not for very long, and "boosters" are soon to be demanded.
Most vaccines require a booster at some point.
Nope. Many don't. One and done, remember? You'll never need a new polio vaccine, if you've had it.
- There is zero in the way of long-term evidence they are free of effects, but...
There will be.
That's the wildest gratutious prophecy I've ever heard. We know it's literally untrue of any other drug. All have side-effects: some worse, some not as bad. But no drug at all is free from side effects. And this one is said to be a powerful one.
- Though every other medicine, from ED meds to anti-toenail fungus meds, come with a long list of possible bad side effects, ranging from fainting to heart attacks, this medicine has been trotted out as if it, of all medicines, can have no such list of bad side effects.
Read the package insert.
There is none. The shot is administered, and we are not given any "package insert" or told what side effects are possible.
- We know nothing about what these vaccines do to children's development.[/list]
We don’t know what any boogie man can do to a child’s development.
Absurdly unparallel. Boogie men are fictitious. Shots are very real. And the consequences of any shot are sure to follow, even though we don't yet know what they will be.
- We know that the susceptible to mortality are few: primarily, those old and with pre-existing serious conditions.
Whaaaat? Everyone is susceptible to mortality.
Statistically, 98% of the people who contract COVID will not die. Most will not even be symptomatic. Those that will die are almost invariably those who are obese, immuno-compromised, smoke, have lung problems, and are elderly. Those are the real risk groups.
- We know that 98% of people will not die from COVID, even if we do nothing.
How many is 2% of the human population? Is it not enough to be worth saving?
Then innoculate the 2%. There's no reason to innoculate those not at risk.
- We know that many health workers and other educated, informed, "insider" people are refusing to be vaccinated.
Many healthcare workers and so-called educated so-called insiders are dumber than a box of rocks about this.
Funny. I always thought the generally highly-educated and the experienced in the medical field knew stuff. But you think not?
And yet we're vaccinating everybody?
Everyone we can.
Crazy.