bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:49 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:11 am
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:16 pm
What exists is the continuous limit where the limit is considered to becoming as close as possible to a specific point but never reaching the point. This means that what we call it continuous limit is discrete.
The main reason you say 'it' never reaches 'that point' is just because you see, consider, and say 'that point' is a 'separate', 'discrete' 'point'.
No, it is by definition of the continuous limit.
So, what you are essentially saying here is; you express a word, or more, provide them with your very own, very specific definitions, and then use those, not to be found anywhere else, definitions to then claim that what you are seeing and saying is true, is irrefutably true, correct?
Also, are you saying there is actually a continuation, but it actually stops at some limited point?
If this is what you are saying, then 'where', EXACTLY, is this "point"?
But if that is not what you are saying, then what are you actually saying?
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:49 pm
The limit is as it is defined as when you get close to the point but never reach it.
But is this, (imagined?), "point" in imagination only or in 'actuality'?
If it exists in 'actuality', then 'where' AND 'when', EXACTLY?
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:49 pm
There is a reason behind that though.
There is a reason behind 'what' though?
I really wish you would not write in a way where I am expected to ASSUME things.
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:49 pmYou cannot have any motion if you reach the point.
Of course NOT. This goes WITHOUT saying. But, also, relatively when one is at that 'point', then are still 'in motion'. As there can NOT be a 'thing', which is NOT 'in motion', and thus NOT 'changing'.
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:49 pm
You for example cannot calculate the derivative.
I could NOT care less.
I just LOOK AT and EXPRESS 'that' what IS actually True, ONLY.
I do NOT 'need to' nor even want to 'look to' forming calculations in order to 'try to' verify, nor falsify, what "others" have 'theorized' or 'claimed' is true.
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:49 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:11 am
And, contrary to "bahman's" BELIEF, obviously what "bahman" sees, considers, and says is absolutely and irrefutably true, right, and correct is NOT necessarily true, right, nor correct at all. Unless, of course, "bahman" can PROVE what "it" says is true, right, and correct IS actually True, Right, and Correct. What can be CLEARLY SEEN here is that there is NO 'proof' AT ALL in those two sentences, provided so far.
So, either PROVE what you CLAIM is TRUE, or just ACCEPT that it might NOT be true AT ALL.
The definition of motion/speed for example is V=dx/dt=limit DX/Dt where Dt tends to zero.
But that is NOT a 'definition' AT ALL of 'motion/speed'. They are just some symbols used in mathematical formulas, of which the majority of human beings have absolutely NO clue NOR idea AT ALL of what they mean or are actually referring to. And nearly EVERY one of that MAJORITY of human beings have absolutely NO interest AT ALL in what those symbols mean or are referring to.
If you would like some 'real life' examples of DEFINITIONS, for the words 'motion' and 'speed', then I will provide you with some.
'Motion',
the action or process of moving or being moved; a formal proposal put to a legislature or committee.
'Speed',
the rate at which someone or something moves or operates or is able to move or operate; move quickly.
Also, there are other actual DEFINITIONS for these two words if you are Truly interested in seeing them?
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:49 pm
You get V=0/0 if you set DT=0 since Dx=0 also that is problematic since 0/0 is undefined. That is why people define the limit as Dt to be very small but never zero.
But ABSOLUTELY NOTHING of this refers to the FACT that you CLAIMED there is a "continuation" with a "limit", which you ONLY said because there is absolutely NOTHING in the WHOLE Universe that could PROVE your CLAIM true about there being 'discrete', in relation to 'motion' and/or 'duration'.
As I have CLEARLY POINTED out earlier, while a human being has a BELIEF, then they will say just about ANY 'thing', in order to back up and support that BELIEF, which they can NOT back up and support with ACTUAL EVIDENCE nor PROOF.
You "bahman" are just PROVIDING another PRIME EXAMPLE of this ABSURD BEHAVIOR here.