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"I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:48 am
by Eodnhoj7
"I think therefore I am" necessitates the "I" as existing through an action that stems from it. "Think" can be replaced with "x" thus showing the "I" as existing through the actions which form it. Action is existence as that which acts is a mode of change as change itself. All being is grounded in change thus to change is to prove existence. The "am-ness" of "I" is the change of "I" reflecting upon itself from a seperate vantage point thus expressing the change of "I" from one state to multiple states.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:43 am
by bahman
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:48 am "I think therefore I am" necessitates the "I" as existing through an action that stems from it. "Think" can be replaced with "x" thus showing the "I" as existing through the actions which form it. Action is existence as that which acts is a mode of change as change itself. All being is grounded in change thus to change is to prove existence. The "am-ness" of "I" is the change of "I" reflecting upon itself from a seperate vantage point thus expressing the change of "I" from one state to multiple states.
Welcome to my world. I have an argument for that here.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:54 pm
by Impenitent
subject verb, therefore subject

-Imp

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:16 pm
by Terrapin Station
It wouldn't be a statement of change unless that's what the utterer has in mind.

You could say that it necessarily implies change, but that's different than saying that it's a statement of change.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:57 am
by attofishpi
I am conscious therefore I am consciously aware.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:09 pm
by Skepdick
Impenitent wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:54 pm subject verb, therefore subject

-Imp
Verbing, therefore verbing.

Being.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:13 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Terrapin Station wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:16 pm It wouldn't be a statement of change unless that's what the utterer has in mind.

You could say that it necessarily implies change, but that's different than saying that it's a statement of change.
Statement is an action, action is change.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:15 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Impenitent wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:54 pm subject verb, therefore subject

-Imp
Subject/verb, therefore changing subject/verb. The change of subject/verb to another subject/verb is being.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:15 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Skepdick wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:09 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:54 pm subject verb, therefore subject

-Imp
Verbing, therefore verbing.

Being.
Recursion as repetition therefore being.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:17 pm
by Skepdick
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:15 pm Recursion as repetition therefore being.
"I" is recursion.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:18 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Skepdick wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:17 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:15 pm Recursion as repetition therefore being.
"I" is recursion.
Therefore it exists as a structured entity.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:19 pm
by bahman
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:18 pm
Skepdick wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:17 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:15 pm Recursion as repetition therefore being.
"I" is recursion.
Therefore it exists as a structured entity.
"I" is not structured.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:21 pm
by Eodnhoj7
bahman wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:19 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:18 pm
Skepdick wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:17 pm
"I" is recursion.
Therefore it exists as a structured entity.
"I" is not structured.
It occurs through recursion where "think" and "am-ness" are the "I" repeated through a variation. The "I" is repeated through a multitude of actions.

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:23 pm
by bahman
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:21 pm
bahman wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:19 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:18 pm

Therefore it exists as a structured entity.
"I" is not structured.
It occurs through recursion where "think" and "am-ness" are the "I" repeated through a variation. The "I" is repeated through a multitude of actions.
It is the same "I".

Re: "I think therefore I am" as a statement of change

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:26 pm
by Eodnhoj7
bahman wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:23 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:21 pm
bahman wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:19 pm
"I" is not structured.
It occurs through recursion where "think" and "am-ness" are the "I" repeated through a variation. The "I" is repeated through a multitude of actions.
It is the same "I".
Yet it manifests itself different through a variety of actions. An example of this would be the square, the line repeats itself through a variety of angles and positions thus the line exists through a variation. This variation allows the line to be repeated thus resulting in the entity of the square as a structure.