Page 1 of 2

DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:52 pm
by attofishpi
DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Duck (verb) to dip ones head lower (because there is a low flying bird coming straight for you)

Duck (noun) a low flying bird

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:48 pm
by Immanuel Can
Rats!

Which came first: the vermin, or the exclamation. :lol:

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:36 pm
by FlashDangerpants
Shit

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm
by attofishpi

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:14 pm
by commonsense
attofishpi wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=duck

The verb came first. :D
Clever and factual—very nice postings.

I understand that the first usage of the verb predates that of the nouns, but still I wonder what noun would have been used to identify such a bird before it was called a duck.

Why would words for actions, which take place in relation to one or more persons, places or things, come to be before there would have been words to name these referents?

Which makes more sense: that the first human word would have been “look”, usually accompanied by an index finger pointed at an object of interest, and often misunderstood depending on the accuracy of the finger; or that the first word would have been “tiger”, also accompanied by an indicator?

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:34 pm
by Impenitent
I was told it was a stork, not a duck

-Imp

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:29 pm
by attofishpi
commonsense wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:14 pm
attofishpi wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=duck

The verb came first. :D
Clever and factual—very nice postings.

I understand that the first usage of the verb predates that of the nouns, but still I wonder what noun would have been used to identify such a bird before it was called a duck.

Why would words for actions, which take place in relation to one or more persons, places or things, come to be before there would have been words to name these referents?

Which makes more sense: that the first human word would have been “look”, usually accompanied by an index finger pointed at an object of interest, and often misunderstood depending on the accuracy of the finger; or that the first word would have been “tiger”, also accompanied by an indicator?
Cheers, and yep I think things like, interesting that the index finger would be the appendage we would use when traversing down an index at the back of a book.

I'm a hetrosexual, and as such love birds, and there are loads with really cool sexy names:-

Shag
Booby
Great Tit
Bush Tit
Blue Tit (certainly for those into necrophilia)
Masked Booby
Nazca Booby (if you like boobs and car racing)

:D

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:21 pm
by commonsense
Ornithology or misogyny or both?

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:46 pm
by attofishpi
commonsense wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:21 pm Ornithology or misogyny or both?
Dunno about you but I love birds and hate misogyny.

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:52 pm
by commonsense
So, by “birds”, you mean birds and not women, right?

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:26 am
by attofishpi
Nah, i only like birds, but I love "birds"..hope that helps. :)

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:48 am
by commonsense
attofishpi wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:26 am Nah, i only like birds, but I love "birds"..hope that helps. :)
Yes, effusively

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:41 am
by Dontaskme
attofishpi wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:52 pm What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

To ask such a question is a re-quest for KNOWLEDGE, the knower can only exit within space and time duality aka ( the dream )

In knowledge: Both Verb and Noun ARISE together at exactly the same time,namely NOW

Noun is known Verbally when Verb is known to be Nouning.

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:13 am
by Belinda
The phenomenon is happenings identifiable by how they affect surroundings including the observer.

Moreover these happenings seem to happen in bundles of aspects such as appearance, sound, dangerousness, etc. Because there are bundles of happenings many people think these bundles are essential. But in reality there are no essences, only happenings that affect the observer.

Re: DUCK! What came first - the Verb or the Noun?

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:08 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:48 pm Rats!

Which came first: the vermin, or the exclamation. :lol:
Vermin is a horrible word, and in the case a humans, very much a case of 'pot calling kettle black'.