The curve got spread out and flattened until the bars were reopened.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:24 amwas a bold, in our faces, liecommonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:13 amWhat was said to be intended was to flatten the curve: the same volume of cases spread out over time is intended to make sure that resources (e.g. nurses to take care of patients, supplies for the treatment of patients) are adequate throughout the entire pandemic. An example of the resources being too scarce for the demands of the pandemic would be the morgues’ needing to be supplemented by refrigerated trucks.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:59 pm I worked in a hospital for acute infectious fevers and have of experience of disease control in hospital and in the community. I understand the science.
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Ditto. I taught infection prevention and control as one of the classes I lead when I was a Clinical Staff Educator.
then both of you should understand that everything that's been done so far (lockdowns, maskin', school shutdowns, etc.) is prolongin' beer virus; that all these measures have done nuthin' but the opposite of what was intended (what was said to be intended)
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Maybe health officials over-reacted and things aren't as bad as they thought they were going to be but I wouldn't think they are lying about masks helping against the virus. What would be the reason for lying to people that masks will help?henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:24 amwas a bold, in our faces, liecommonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:13 amWhat was said to be intended was to flatten the curve: the same volume of cases spread out over time is intended to make sure that resources (e.g. nurses to take care of patients, supplies for the treatment of patients) are adequate throughout the entire pandemic. An example of the resources being too scarce for the demands of the pandemic would be the morgues’ needing to be supplemented by refrigerated trucks.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:59 pm I worked in a hospital for acute infectious fevers and have of experience of disease control in hospital and in the community. I understand the science.
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Ditto. I taught infection prevention and control as one of the classes I lead when I was a Clinical Staff Educator.
then both of you should understand that everything that's been done so far (lockdowns, maskin', school shutdowns, etc.) is prolongin' beer virus; that all these measures have done nuthin' but the opposite of what was intended (what was said to be intended)
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The curve got spread out and flattened until the bars were reopened.
I'm thinkin' that had more to do with the industry (of drinkin') than becuz of a curve flattenin'
Maybe health officials over-reacted and things aren't as bad as they thought they were going to be but I wouldn't think they are lying about masks helping against the virus. What would be the reason for lying to people that masks will help?
I'll be generous, Gary, and let your good will take the lead: mebbe it wasn't lies, mebbe it was just zeal & an incompetence...mebbe it was all good intentions
there's a road supposedly paved with those
I'm thinkin' that had more to do with the industry (of drinkin') than becuz of a curve flattenin'
Maybe health officials over-reacted and things aren't as bad as they thought they were going to be but I wouldn't think they are lying about masks helping against the virus. What would be the reason for lying to people that masks will help?
I'll be generous, Gary, and let your good will take the lead: mebbe it wasn't lies, mebbe it was just zeal & an incompetence...mebbe it was all good intentions
there's a road supposedly paved with those
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It seems you areseduced by a conspiracy theory. An effective way to protect yourself from conspiracy theories is to learn your facts from honest sources. Honest sources may be identified by a) unwitting testimonyhenry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:24 amwas a bold, in our faces, liecommonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:13 amWhat was said to be intended was to flatten the curve: the same volume of cases spread out over time is intended to make sure that resources (e.g. nurses to take care of patients, supplies for the treatment of patients) are adequate throughout the entire pandemic. An example of the resources being too scarce for the demands of the pandemic would be the morgues’ needing to be supplemented by refrigerated trucks.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:59 pm I worked in a hospital for acute infectious fevers and have of experience of disease control in hospital and in the community. I understand the science.
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Ditto. I taught infection prevention and control as one of the classes I lead when I was a Clinical Staff Educator.
then both of you should understand that everything that's been done so far (lockdowns, maskin', school shutdowns, etc.) is prolongin' beer virus; that all these measures have done nuthin' but the opposite of what was intended (what was said to be intended)
b) disinterest in financial, political, or sexual rewards.
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It seems you areseduced by a conspiracy theory.
no, you're just gullible
good girl
congrats: they'll eat you last
no, you're just gullible
good girl
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One sad thing about conspiracy rumors is that whatever is trumpeted first and repeated most becomes the ingrained narrative.Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:15 amIt seems you areseduced by a conspiracy theory. An effective way to protect yourself from conspiracy theories is to learn your facts from honest sources. Honest sources may be identified by a) unwitting testimonyhenry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:24 amwas a bold, in our faces, liecommonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:13 am
What was said to be intended was to flatten the curve: the same volume of cases spread out over time is intended to make sure that resources (e.g. nurses to take care of patients, supplies for the treatment of patients) are adequate throughout the entire pandemic. An example of the resources being too scarce for the demands of the pandemic would be the morgues’ needing to be supplemented by refrigerated trucks.
b) disinterest in financial, political, or sexual rewards.
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I hoped Henry might be able to rise above that trumped-up narrative.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:45 pmOne sad thing about conspiracy rumors is that whatever is trumpeted first and repeated most becomes the ingrained narrative.Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:15 amIt seems you areseduced by a conspiracy theory. An effective way to protect yourself from conspiracy theories is to learn your facts from honest sources. Honest sources may be identified by a) unwitting testimony
b) disinterest in financial, political, or sexual rewards.
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The irony, of course, is that "freedom lovin folk" are very susceptible to this kind of horseshit.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:45 pm One sad thing about conspiracy rumors is that whatever is trumpeted first and repeated most becomes the ingrained narrative.
And it's precisely when their stupid in large numbers causes havoc is when our freedoms get curtailed. Which is why I am perfectly fine throwing libertarians under the bus early and often.
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so happy to disappointBelinda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:55 pmI hoped Henry might be able to rise above that trumped-up narrative.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:45 pmOne sad thing about conspiracy rumors is that whatever is trumpeted first and repeated most becomes the ingrained narrative.Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:15 am
It seems you areseduced by a conspiracy theory. An effective way to protect yourself from conspiracy theories is to learn your facts from honest sources. Honest sources may be identified by a) unwitting testimony
b) disinterest in financial, political, or sexual rewards.
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In that case your intransigence is at least partly caused by bloody mindedness, like an adolescent.Yes, or even a frustrated toddler throwing his toys away.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:41 pmso happy to disappointBelinda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:55 pmI hoped Henry might be able to rise above that trumped-up narrative.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:45 pm
One sad thing about conspiracy rumors is that whatever is trumpeted first and repeated most becomes the ingrained narrative.
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absolutely (and cuz I'm right)Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:44 pmIn that case your intransigence is at least partly caused by bloody mindedness, like an adolescent.
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Aren’t there others on this forum who agree with Henry? Why are they silent now instead of supporting Henry’s position? Or is he a minority of one here?henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:46 pmabsolutely (and cuz I'm right)
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Nothing that we can't fix with a good spanking.
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Because Henry knows he's wasting your time. It's why he does it.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:17 pm Aren’t there others on this forum who agree with Henry? Why are they silent now instead of supporting Henry’s position? Or is he a minority of one here?
He has removed reason from you as way of interacting with him.
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I ain't lookin' for alliescommonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:17 pmAren’t there others on this forum who agree with Henry? Why are they silent now instead of supporting Henry’s position? Or is he a minority of one here?
this cheese is more than capable of standin' alone