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Megan Miranda

If you had one day left to live, what would you do?


I'd spend it here -- https://knowthyself.forumotion.net/ -- of course. :lol:

People were like Russian nesting dolls --- versions stacked inside the latest edition.

See, I told you.

Alot can happen in eleven minutes. Decker can run two miles in eleven minutes. I once wrote an English essay in ten. And God knows Carson Levine can talk a girl out of her clothes in less then half that time.
Eleven minutes might as well be eternity underwater. It only takes three minutes without air for loss consciousness. Permanent brain damange begins at four minutes. And then, when the oxygen runs out, full cardiac arrest occurs. Death is possible at five minutes. Probable at seven. Definite at ten. Decker pulled me out at eleven.


Yo, Decker! It's been years now, for Christ's sake!!

There is nothing more dangerous, nothing more powerful, nothing more necessary and essential for survival than the lies we tell ourselves.

And then, incidentally, the lies we tell everyone else.

The first time I died, I didn't see God. No light at the end of the tunnel. No haloed angels. No dead grandparents. To be fair, I probably wasn't a solid shoo-in for Heaven. But, honestly, I kind of assumed I'd make the cut.

Me? Sure, if God grows a pair.

If I were a monster, I'd pretend to be human.

So, be honest, how am I doing here so far?
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Andy Warhol

The nicer I am, the more people think I'm lying.


Let's explain that.

I never understood why when you died, you didn't just vanish, everything should just keep going on the way it was only you just wouldn't be there. I always thought I'd like my own tombstone to be blank. No epitaph, and no name. Well, actually, I'd like it to say 'figment'.

Instead, his name, date of birth, the day he died.
Surrounded by soup cans of course.


Before I was shot, I always thought that I was more half-there than all-there – I always suspected that I was watching TV instead of living life. People sometimes say that the way things happen in movies is unreal, but actually it's the way things happen in life that's unreal. The movies make emotions look so strong and real, whereas when things really do happen to you, it's like watching television – you don't feel anything. Right when I was being shot and ever since, I knew that I was watching television. The channels switch, but it's all television.

By coincidence, given a free will world, I am watching I Shot Andy Warhol: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... l#p2335005

It's the movies that have been running things in America ever since they were invented. They show you what to do, how to do it, when to do it, how to feel about it, and how to look how you feel about it.

Then TV, then the Internet. You tell me what's next.

The world fascinates me.

Next up: Heaven fascinates me.
Or that other place.


Some people spend their entire lives thinking about one particular famous person. They pick one person who's famous, and they dwell on him or her. They devote almost their entire consciousness to thinking about this person they've never even met, or maybe met once. If you ask any famous person about the kind of mail they get, you'll find that almost every one of them has at least one person who's obsessed with them and writes constantly. It feels so strange to think that someone is spending their whole time thinking about you.

I dare you to tell me, well, you know.
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Samuel Beckett from Endgame

The end is in the beginning and yet you go on.


In other words, whatever that means.

Nothing is funnier than unhappiness.

Hmm, I must be doing it wrong then.

I use the words you taught me. If they don't mean anything any more, teach me others.

Better still, fuck off.

We're not beginning to...to...mean something?
Mean something! You and I, mean something!
(Brief laugh.) Ah that's a good one!


Hamming it up as it were.

Use your head, can't you, use your head, you're on earth, there's no cure for that!

I can think of one.

God damn you to hell, Sir, no, it's indecent, there are limits! In six days, do you hear me, six days, God made the world. Yes Sir, no less Sir, the World! And you are not bloody well capable of making me a pair of trousers in three months!
But my dear Sir, my dear Sir, look at the world and look at my Trousers!


Checkmate!
Right, Pedro?
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Joyce Carol Oates from We Were the Mulvaneys

Out of obscurity I came. To obscurity I can return.


Coming here for example.

Well, no. Marianne thought there could be lots worse.

Philosophically, for example: https://knowthyself.forumotion.net/

...the United States government was at the mercy of special-interest groups, lobbies like the National Rifle Association and the American Medical Association, the automobile and oil industries, every kind of defense manufacturer, how could democracy be served?

Shh. Let's not go there, okay?

...if she petted or fed one animal in the presence of others, she must pet and feed them all. It was what Jesus would have done had He lived intimately with animals.

Unless of course Darwin was right.

...so perhaps nothing was wrong.

Or, perhaps, nothing was right.

Oh, it’s a terrible, cruel thing—first you’re young, and that takes up such a long time you think it’s forever, then suddenly you’re not young, and you never get used to it—and, oh dear, there’s just the one way out.

Hmm, I wonder what that is?
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J.D. Salinger from The Catcher in the Rye

What really knocks me out is a book that, when you're all done reading it, you wish the author that wrote it was a terrific friend of yours and you could call him up on the phone whenever you felt like it. That doesn't happen much, though.


No, really, has that ever happened to anyone here?

Among other things, you'll find that you're not the first person who was ever confused and frightened and even sickened by human behavior.

Among other things indeed.

I'm quite illiterate, but I read a lot.

Stuff here for example.

Anyway, I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody's around - nobody big, I mean - except me. And I'm standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff - I mean if they're running and they don't look where they're going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That's all I do all day. I'd just be the catcher in the rye and all. I know it's crazy, but that's the only thing I'd really like to be.

Or, sure, for some, push them over.

I am always saying "Glad to've met you" to somebody I'm not at all glad I met. If you want to stay alive, you have to say that stuff, though.

Or, "I'm fine, thanks for asking."

That's the thing about girls. Every time they do something pretty, even if they're not much to look at, or even if they're sort of stupid, you fall in love with them, and then you never know where the hell you are. Girls. Jesus Christ. They can drive you crazy. They really can.

Next up: the thing about boys.
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The Onion

Lack Of Monkey Sidekick Only Thing Holding Man Back From Achieving Full Potential


That'll do it alright.

Priest Cursed With Incredible Penis

God given.

Parents Can’t Believe How Bad Daughter Is At Being Raised By Them

That's one explanation of course.

New Twitter CEO Asked To Watch 'Matrix' As Part Of Onboarding Process

Onboarding? That's an actual thing?

Potential Candidates To Replace Elon Musk As Twitter CEO

After watching 'Matrix' of course.

Tom Cruise Explains How He Pulled Off Stunt Of Shelly Miscavige’s Disappearance

Your turn to explain it.
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J.G. Ballard from The Atrocity Exhibition

The ambiguous role of the car crash needs no elaboration—apart from our own deaths, the car crash is probably the most dramatic event in our lives, and in many cases the two will coincide. Aside from the fact that we generally own or are at the controls of the crashing vehicle, the car crash differs from other disasters in that it involves the most powerfully advertised commercial product of this century, an iconic entity that combines the elements of speed, power, dream and freedom within a highly stylized format that defuses any fears we may have of the inherent dangers of these violent and unstable machines.


I suggest you make of this what you will.

Readers will recall that the little evidence collected seemed to point to the strange and confusing figure of an unidentified Air Force pilot whose body was washed ashore on a beach near Dieppe three months later. Other traces of his ‘mortal remains’ were found in a number of unexpected places: in a footnote to a paper on some unusual aspects of schizophrenia published thirty years earlier in a since defunct psychiatric journal; in the pilot for an unpurchased TV thriller, ‘Lieutenant 70’; and on the record labels of a pop singer known as The Him — to instance only a few. Whether in fact this man was a returning astronaut suffering from amnesia, the figment of an ill-organized advertising campaign, or, as some have suggested, the second coming of Christ, is anyone’s guess.

I suggest you make of this what you will.

The endless newsreel clips of nuclear explosions that we saw on TV in the 1960s (were) a powerful incitement to the psychotic imagination, sanctioning everything.

After all, look at me.

In his mind World War III represents the final self-destruction and imbalance of an asymmetric world, the last suicidal spasm of the dextro-rotatory helix, DNA. The human organism is an atrocity exhibition at which he is an unwilling spectator...

Yo, Putin! You're up.

At the logic of fashion, such once-popular perversions as pedophilia and sodomy will become derided cliches, as amusing as pottery ducks on suburban walls.

Of course he's only paraphrasing Satyr.

...reason rationalizes reality for Dr. Nathan as it does for the rest of us, in the Freudian sense of providing a more palatable or convenient explanation, and there are so many subjects about which we should not be reasonable.

More to the point: cannot be reasonable.
At least philosophically.
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Bret Easton Ellis from American Psycho

I laugh maniacally, then take a deep breath and touch my chest-- expecting a heart to be thumping quickly, impatiently, but there's nothing there, not even a beat.


Well, actually, it was beating of course. But point taken.

It strikes me profoundly that the world is more often than not a bad and cruel place.

Well, at least he spared my beloved Chloë Sevigny.
You know, in the movie.


Everything failed to subdue me. Soon everything seemed dull: another sunrise, the lives of heroes, falling in love, war, the discoveries people made about each other. The only thing that didn't bore me, obviously enough, was how much money Tim Price made...

That and his business card.

Disintegration---I'm taking it in stride.

Well, I'm trying to.

My pain is constant and sharp...this confession has meant nothing.

So, do we or do we not know better?

Do you know what Ed Gein said about women?
'When I see a pretty girl walking down the street I think two things. One part of me wants to take her out and talk to her and be real nice and sweet and treat her right.'
I finish my J&B in one swallow.
What does the other part of him think? Hamlin asks tentatively.
What her head would look like on a stick.


Of course he was, after all, the "Butcher of Plainfield".
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That last one is actually a big Ed 'the temper' Kemper aka the mad Titan aka the ogre of aptos quote. It's usually falsely attributed to Ted the Bundbarian - when he said it in a taped interview he wuz quoting Ed.

Never heard it attributed to Eddie 'buffalo Bill' Gein before.
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Now u got me watching Kemper videos again.

Ed's the kind of guy u can do time with becuz he can ramble about anything and you still enjoy it.

lol. when you're 8 and your walk to your room at night to go to bed is like a scene out of The Ring. go to 24:47 or thereabout.
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Stephen R.C. Hicks

In postmodern discourse, truth is rejected explicitly and consistency can be a rare phenomenon. Consider the following pairs of claims. On the one hand, all truth is relative; on the other hand, postmodernism tells it like it really is. On the one hand, all cultures are equally deserving of respect; on the other, Western culture is uniquely destructive and bad. Values are subjective—but sexism and racism are really evil. Technology is bad and destructive—and it is unfair that some people have more technology than others. Tolerance is good and dominance is bad—but when postmodernists come to power, political correctness follows. There is a common pattern here: Subjectivism and relativism in one breath, dogmatic absolutism in the next.


We'll need a particular context of course. How about one from you, Satyr.

...why is it that that prominent segment of the Left—the same Left that traditionally defended its positions on the modernist grounds of reason, science, fairness for all, and optimism—is now voicing themes of anti-reason, anti-science, all’s-fair-in-love-and-war, and cynicism?

We'll need a particular context of course. How about one from you, Satyr.

It is important to emphasize that the Nazis put their program forward forthrightly and as a noble—even spiritual—ideal to achieve. They promised not merely another political platform, but a whole philosophy of life that, as they and their followers believed, promised renewal.

Let's discuss why it's importance to emphasize this, Mr. Objectivist.

So strong was the Nazi party’s commitment to socialism that in 1921 the party entered into negotiations to merge with another socialist party, the German Socialist Party. The negotiations fell though, but the economic socialism remained a consistent Nazi theme through the 1920s and 30s.

Spot the irony yet? Okay, if so, then run it by, among others, Donald Trump.

The horse eats the grass; the lion kills the horse; the man rides the horse and kills the lion. Life is an ongoing struggle between strong and weak, predator and prey. Cooperation and trade are possible, but they are superficial interludes between more fundamental animal facts about life. As Nietzsche again puts it: “‘Life always lives at the expense of other life’—he who does not grasp this has not taken even the first step toward honesty with himself.”

Note how cleverly he melds might makes right with right makes might. So cleverly he may not even grasp it himself.

We know of their total recasting of education of children to achieve, as Hitler wanted “a brutal, domineering, fearless, cruel youth. Youth must be all that. It must bear pain. There must be nothing weak and gentle about it. The free, splendid beast of prey must once again flash from its eyes.”

Next up: the children of the Jews.
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Stephen Hawking from A Brief History of Time

God abhors a naked singularity.


On the other hand, He seems to be okay with this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_earthquakes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... _eruptions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... l_cyclones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tsunamis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_landslides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_floods
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... ore_deaths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_diseases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events

A theory is a good theory if it satisfies two requirements. It must accurately describe a large class of observations on the basis of a model that contains only a few arbitrary elements, and it must make definite predictions about the results of future observations.

Well, theoretically anyway.
And then this part: "Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"


It is said that there’s no such thing as a free lunch. But the universe is the ultimate free lunch.

Not counting Judgment Day of course.

…only in the few universes that are like ours would intelligent beings develop and ask the question: “Why is the universe the way we see it?” The answer is then simple: If it had been any different, we would not be here!

Thank God?

When a book was published entitled 100 Authors Against Einstein, he retorted, “If I were wrong, then one would have been enough!”

No, really: https://www.amazon.com/One-Hundred-Auth ... B09PHH7KC8
Next up: 100 posters against iambiguous

The eventual goal of science is to provide a single theory that describes the whole universe.

Next up: the eventual goal of philosophy: https://knowthyself.forumotion.net/
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Italo Calvino from Invisible Cities

It is not the voice that commands the story; it is the ear.


In other words, when it's not the other way around.

Why come to Trude? I asked myself. And I already wanted to leave. You [can] resume your flight whereever you like, they say to me, but you will arive at another Trude, absolutely the same, detail by detail. The world is covered by a sole Trude which does not begin and does not end. Only the names of the airport changes.

And, of course, the equivalent of that here.

In every age someone, looking at Fedora as it was, imagined a way of making it the ideal city, but while he constructed his miniature model, Fedora was already no longer the same as before, and what had been until yesterday a possible future became only a toy in a glass globe

And, of course, the equivalent of that here.

Signs form a language, but not the one you think you know.

Let alone the one you think I know.

The catalogue of forms is endless: until every shape has found its city, new cities will continue to be born. When the forms exhaust their variety and come apart, the end of cities begins.

Coming to a city near you.

At times the mirror increases a thing’s value, at times denies it.

And, no, not just in the fun house.
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The Onion

Physician Shoots Off A Few Adderall Prescriptions To Improve Yelp Rating


Yelp rating. I'm supposed to know what that means, right?

Sitting Inside Cardboard Box The Safest 6-Year-Old Will Feel For Remainder Of Life

Yep, that sure takes me back.

Friends, Family Admit They Expected Man’s Mental Breakdown To Look Completely Different

For example, they expected him to post here.

Porn Stars React To Utah Age Verification Law: https://apnews.com/article/porn-age-ver ... d7d34c3b9d

So, any porn stars here care to weigh in. And not philosophical porn, okay, Mr. Pinhead?

Woman Struggling To Contort Dreams, Ambitions Into Shape Of Dental Technician

50k to 70k a year here in Baltimore.

Study Finds No Greater Sign Of Delusion Than Sending Coworkers Your Personal Email On Last Day

No, I actually did.
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Chuck Palahniuk, from Fight Club

You buy furniture. You tell yourself, this is the last sofa I will ever need in my life. Buy the sofa, then for a couple years you're satisfied that no matter what goes wrong, at least you've got your sofa issue handled. Then the right set of dishes. Then the perfect bed. The drapes. The rug. Then you're trapped in your lovely nest, and the things you used to own, now they own you.


Not counting the stuff we own of course.

If I could wake up in a different place, at a different time, could I wake up as a different person?

Pick one:
1] how you think about that
2] how I think about that
3] how [philosophically] all rational men and women ought to think about that


I’ve met God across his long walnut desk with his diplomas hanging on the wall behind him, and God asks me, Why?
Why did I cause so much pain?
Didn’t I realize that each of us is a sacred, unique snowflake of special unique specialness?
Can’t I see how we’re all manifestations of love?
I look at God behind his desk, taking notes on a pad, but God’s got this all wrong.
We are not special.
We are not crap or trash, either.
We just are.
We just are, and what happens just happens.
And God says, No, that’s not right.
Yeah. Well. Whatever. You can’t teach God anything.


Next up: you meet God.

Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer, maybe self-destruction is the answer.

Maybe works for me too.

Everyone smiles with that invisible gun to their head.

Or bazooka.

Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.

Hey, we don't call it the American Dream for nothing.
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