Knowledge is EVIL

[Dontaskme]

Having knowledge ..is suffering, and suffering is evil incarnate which is felt by every living sentient human being.
Humans are the only known custodians of knowledge brought into existence by the sense of being self-aware.
Humans are aware they know knowledge, they have knowledge of being aware of what they know.

Animals feel pain and discomfort, but it's unclear if they have a sense of suffering from what they are feeling. An animal can't tell itself it is suffering from it's pains and discomforts, whereas humans can. Therefore, knowledge is everything that is wrong and evil about life for the human being.


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[Skepdick]

Your arguments reduces to a choice between Stoicism and Epicureanism

[Dontaskme]

Your arguments reduces to a choice between Stoicism and Epicureanism

Choice is for the born, it's the desire to be born as and through the knowledge of yourself which is more desire.

If you had the choice to be born or not which choice would you choose?

[Skepdick]

Choice is for the born.

If you had the choice to be born or not which choice would you choose?

If I had the choice I am already born.

The choice you present is a lie. The real choice is to remain born or to die.

[Dontaskme]

Choice is for the born.

If you had the choice to be born or not which choice would you choose?

If I had the choice I am already born.

Yes, that's right. Now you are born into knowledge.

Do you like being born?

[Skepdick]

Yes, that's right. Now you are born into knowledge.

Do you like being born?

If I didn't like being born I wouldn't choose to remain born. I would to become dead.

By remaining born I am choosing being born over becoming dead.

[Dontaskme]

Yes, that's right. Now you are born into knowledge.

Do you like being born?

If I didn't like being born I wouldn't choose to remain born. I would to become dead.

By remaining born I am choosing being born over becoming dead.

Ok, steady on, I was only asking.

[Dontaskme]

If I had the choice I am already born.

If you could choose not to be born would you choose not to be born?

[Dontaskme]

The choice you present is a lie.

What choice did I present, and why is that choice a lie?

[Skepdick]

What choice did I present, and why is that choice a lie?

If you could choose not to be born would you choose not to be born?

Because by your own premise "choice is for the born".

If I could choose not to be born, I am already born. Because choice is for the born.

You can't choose not to be born.
You can choose to become dead.

You are welcome to change your premise to "choice is for the born AND unborn"

[Dontaskme]

What choice did I present, and why is that choice a lie?

If you could choose not to be born would you choose not to be born?

Because by your own premise "choice is for the born".

If I could choose not to be born, I am already born. Because choice is for the born.

So by that logic then, you cannot choose to be born, and yet you are born so where does the choice come from?

[Skepdick]

So by that logic then, you cannot choose to be born, and yet you are born so where does the choice come from?

Have you heard about the birds and the bees?

One minute you were with daddy, next minute you were in mommy. 9 months later - you were born.

50 years later you regret not being given a choice in the matter on a philosophy forum.

If you insist on not-being born, then I suggest you invent time travel and stop your daddy from rogering your mommy.

Surely you have heard of temporal paradoxes.

[Dontaskme]

So by that logic then, you cannot choose to be born, and yet you are born so where does the choice come from?

Have you heard about the birds and the bees?

One minute you were with daddy, next minute you were in mommy. 9 months later - you appeared.

20 years later you were on a philosophy forum regretting not being given a choice in the matter.

I'm not talking about the birds and the bees. I'm talking about you, did you choose to be born?

You can't choose not to be born and yet you are born, so it wasn't your choice to be born. And yet choice is of the born that you didn't choose?
So you cannot choose to be born or not born...so who's choosing to be born?

[Skepdick]

I'm not talking about the birds and the bees. I'm talking about you, did you choose to be born?

You can't choose not to be born and yet you are born, so it wasn't your choice to be born. And yet choice is of the born that you didn't choose?
So you cannot choose to be born or not born...so who's choosing to be born?

It's just a paradox. A mere contradiction. You understand that, right?

Now that you are born, you can CHOOSE to ignore it.
You can CHOOSE to be ignore paradoxes and inconsistencies.

[Dontaskme]

It's just a paradox. You understand that, right?

Now that you are born, you can CHOOSE to ignore it.

So even though you cannot choose to be born and yet you are born - and now you have the choice whether another life comes into the world or not right?